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• @Joy Kong : 我从在中国学习中西医的经历出发，谈到了我对干细胞疗法的研究和应用。我解释了为什么选择脐带来源的干细胞，以及它们在治疗自闭症和其他疾病中的优势。我还澄清了关于干细胞疗法的常见误解，并讨论了如何结合氨基酸、富里酸、一氧化氮和STEM Regen等补充剂来优化治疗效果。此外，我还分享了我对移动干细胞治疗的看法，以及对未来在脑部疾病和精神健康领域开展更多研究的期待。 ###
  # 干细胞疗法：一场关于再生与治愈的对话 我最近与UCLA训练有素的三重认证医生Joy Kong博士进行了一次深入的访谈，探讨了干细胞疗法在再生医学中的应用，特别是它在自闭症治疗中的潜力。这次对话不仅让我对干细胞疗法有了更全面的理解，也让我对医学的未来充满了期待。 Kong博士的经历本身就是一个传奇。她在中国成长，亲身经历了中西医并存的医疗环境，这培养了她兼容并蓄的医学理念。这种开放的心态，让她能够将东方医学的整体观与西方医学的科学严谨性完美结合。 她从最初对大脑和精神健康的迷恋，到如今专注于再生医学，特别是干细胞疗法，展现了医学探索的广阔前景。 脐带来源干细胞：安全与高效的结合 Kong博士特别强调了脐带来源间充质干细胞（MSCs）的优势。她解释说，与自体骨髓或脂肪来源的干细胞相比，脐带来源的干细胞更年轻、更具活力，并且拥有更长的端粒，这意味着它们具有更强的再生能力和更长的“寿命”。更重要的是，脐带来源MSCs在识别和对抗癌细胞方面表现出更强的能力，这使其在安全性方面具有显著优势。 她甚至用“细胞痴呆”来形容衰老的自体干细胞，形象地说明了它们在功能和识别能力上的下降。 打破误区：干细胞疗法并非遥不可及 访谈中，我们澄清了一些关于干细胞疗法的常见误解。许多人认为，在美国接受干细胞治疗需要前往海外。但事实并非如此。尽管美国现有的医疗体系对干细胞疗法并不友好，但该疗法的蓬勃发展势不可挡。干细胞疗法的强大疗效，以及患者口耳相传的积极反馈，正在推动着这一领域的进步。 协同增效：营养补充剂的助力 Kong博士还强调了营养补充剂在增强干细胞疗法效果方面的作用。她推荐了几种关键的补充剂，包括： * 氨基酸混合物: 为细胞提供构建蛋白质和酶的必要成分。 * 富里酸: 帮助细胞吸收矿物质并排出毒素，如同大自然的循环系统。 * 一氧化氮: 扩张血管，促进干细胞的迁移和发挥作用。 * STEM Regen: 刺激骨髓释放更多干细胞。 这些补充剂并非简单的辅助，而是能够协同干细胞疗法，从根本上改善细胞环境，增强机体自身的修复能力。 未来展望：移动治疗与脑部疾病研究 我们还探讨了移动干细胞治疗的未来。Kong博士认为，移动治疗能够极大地提高干细胞疗法的可及性，尤其对于行动不便或居住在偏远地区的患者。虽然移动治疗无法完全取代传统的诊所治疗，但它无疑将成为干细胞疗法发展的重要组成部分。 未来研究方向方面，Kong博士特别关注脑部疾病和精神健康领域。 她指出，虽然动物实验已经展现了干细胞疗法在治疗神经退行性疾病和成瘾方面的潜力，但仍需要更多的人体临床研究来证实其疗效。 结语：医学的未来，充满希望 与Kong博士的对话让我对干细胞疗法的未来充满信心。它不仅是一种治疗疾病的有效手段，更是一种能够优化和提升整体健康水平的革命性技术。 通过结合干细胞疗法、肽疗法、能量疗法以及合理的营养补充，我们有望在不久的将来，实现对多种疾病的有效治疗，并显著提升人类的健康水平。 这不仅是医学的进步，更是对人类福祉的巨大贡献。 而像Kong博士这样的先驱者，正引领着我们走向一个更加健康、充满希望的未来。 ### 315\\. Stem Cell Therapy &amp; Regenerative Medicine - With Dr. Joy Kong ◉ 03:19 我在美国行医的历程源于在中国成长过程中对中西医兼收并蓄的开放心态，以及对生命科学的热爱。 ◉ 04:30 我在精神病学和成瘾医学领域工作的过程中，意识到仅关注大脑治疗精神疾病的局限性，并开始探索整合中西医的治疗方法。 ◉ 06:40 我对干细胞疗法的认知始于八年前，最初的无知让我意识到医学教育的不足，并促使我深入研究干细胞疗法。 ◉ 08:32 我作为一名医生，遇到干细胞疗法后，首先想到的是自己对医学知识的不足，并开始积极学习和研究。 ◉ 09:33 我创立了美国整合细胞疗法学院，旨在通过提供已有的研究证据，帮助医生了解并应用干细胞疗法。 ◉ 11:03 干细胞疗法的成功取决于细胞类型和注射部位的选择。 ◉ 12:49 西医注重细节，而中医注重整体系统观，未来医学应结合两者优势。 ◉ 15:34 自闭症的病因复杂，涉及代谢途径紊乱、微生物组问题、毒素以及遗传易感性等多种因素，需要多方面综合治疗。 ◉ 17:04 干细胞疗法可以改善自闭症的一些症状，例如改善脑部血流、调节免疫系统和修复肠道等。 ◉ 19:45 关于干细胞疗法，一个普遍的误解是美国无法进行干细胞治疗。 ◉ 25:16 我选择使用脐带来源的干细胞是因为它们比其他来源的干细胞更有效、更安全。 ◉ 30:52 我通常会结合一些补充剂来增强干细胞疗法的效果，例如氨基酸混合物、富里酸、一氧化氮和STEM Regen。 ◉ 36:48 我认为移动干细胞治疗是干细胞疗法的未来发展方向之一，可以为更多患者提供便利。 ◉ 39:09 未来需要更多关于干细胞疗法治疗脑部疾病和精神健康问题的研究。 ◉ 40:09 除了健康饮食、运动和充足睡眠外，肽类物质、生物调节剂和能量疗法（如激光疗法）对优化健康也大有裨益。 ◉ 47:16 我的网站joykongmd.com 和Instagram doctorjoykong 是联系我的途径。 ## Transcript 00:00 What makes a great pair of glasses? At Warby Parker, it's all the invisible extras without the extra cost. 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All viewers of this content are advised to consult with their doctors or qualified health professionals regarding specific health questions. 语法解析 02:03 Thank you for listening to the Boost Your Biology podcast. My name is Lucas Owen. I uncover the most cutting edge health information on the planet, ranging from hormones, nutrition, supplementation, fat loss, biohacking, longevity, wellness, and a whole lot more. Welcome to the Boost Your Biology podcast. 语法解析 02:28 Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the Boost Your Biology podcast. Today, I'm joined in the studio with a very special guest who is a UCLA-trained triple board-certified physician through the American Board of Psychiatry and Neurology, American Board of Addiction Medicine, American Board of Anti-Aging and Regenerative Medicine. So we have an extremely intellectual guest on the podcast here. Joy Kong, welcome to the podcast. 语法解析 02:57 Thank you so much, Lucas. So happy to be here with you. Fantastic. So Joy, I guess what I would love to learn a little bit more about is your journey. How did you actually find yourself working in this field? Oh boy. So I would say the journey probably had to do with how I grew up. 语法解析 #### ◉ 我在美国行医的历程源于在中国成长过程中对中西医兼收并蓄的开放心态，以及对生命科学的热爱。 03:19 China, how Chinese medicine and Western medicine kind of stand side by side. We don't discriminate. We use whatever worked. And so that kind of open-mindedness in me had just, you know, that I carried that over to America. When I was 20 years old, I came to the U.S., 语法解析 03:39 And I realized I really just loved the science of life. So biology is, you know, it really grabs me. So it's like, you know, it spoke to, yeah, it spoke to my heart. You know, I feel good thinking and learning about it. And then going to medical school at UCLA, specializing in psychiatry because of my fascination with the brain and mental health. 语法解析 04:04 and then kind of moved on from there. You know, like you mentioned, I was board certified in psychiatry, addiction medicine, but I realized that there were limitations in treating mental health conditions because if you're focusing just in the head, then you're forgetting that you're actually a full organism, that all these organs are interacting with each other. And that's really very much in line with Chinese medicine, which is 语法解析 #### ◉ 我在精神病学和成瘾医学领域工作的过程中，意识到仅关注大脑治疗精神疾病的局限性，并开始探索整合中西医的治疗方法。 04:30 All these organs are connected and possibly by energy channels that early Chinese had visualized in their meditations that all these organs are connected. But still, there was a kind of a division between Western medicine and Eastern medicine that the languages were very different. I wanted to bring in the wisdom of Eastern medicine, but I found it really hard to 语法解析 04:54 to speak both languages with the same person and putting them together because one is speaking in poetry and the other one's speaking in formulas and molecules. So I had a hard time until I got into what's called functional medicine or integrated medicine because they're actually… 语法解析 05:14 using languages that we can understand in science, but then holistic in the way that you're weaving together different organs, such as something as simple as nutrition, right? Looking at certain vitamins, how that can work on all these different organs. So if you're missing one vitamin, you could be… 语法解析 05:34 having problems in 10 different organs. All of a sudden, then things are aligned, are put together. So I found that very easy to 语法解析 05:44 And of course, there's all kinds of disciplines in medicine. There's the hormones, which bring together many organs and their toxicity that can affect multiple organs. And there's microbiome that whatever the little critters that live with us, what they produce can also affect multiple organs, not to mention energy medicine, right? Sunlight, EMF, and all these things can affect everything all at once. So now all of a sudden, I can look at these individual components 语法解析 06:12 And now I can put them together somehow. And when I looked at stem cell therapy, and I didn't know anything about it until eight years ago, I literally was ignorant like every other doctor. We learned, you know, kind of lip service stem cells when we were in medical school. We just knew, oh, we had these primitive cells in our body and we can utilize them in orthostatic 语法解析 #### ◉ 我对干细胞疗法的认知始于八年前，最初的无知让我意识到医学教育的不足，并促使我深入研究干细胞疗法。 06:40 bone marrow transplants because these are early cells. They can repopulate your blood system and there are embryonic stem cells. So when the fetus is forming, you've got all these primitive cells, but that's about it. That's all we knew. We knew that there's research going on. So this shows how much ignorance I had when I first met a doctor who was practicing the 语法解析 07:00 some form of stem cell therapy. He said, oh, I've done stem cell therapy on this autistic kid. I said, what? You can actually use stem cells these days? I thought they're still researching it. He said, no, we can actually utilize these cells from the umbilical cord blood and look at all these things that were observed as changes in this child. 语法解析 07:21 And so he showed me like this list on his cell phone, 40 different things of what's changed in the behavior and, and, uh, just ability, cognitive capabilities, um, social interactions from this kid. And me as a psychiatrist, uh, who actually dreaded working with autistic children because I didn't have good tools. And so I couldn't make 语法解析 07:45 big changes. So it's not fun to treat somebody that you can't really help. So, I mean, that's, that's a drain on your soul, right? I became a doctor to be effective. And then I felt highly ineffective with these kids. So I didn't want to do that to myself and I wasn't helping the kid anyhow. So what, what am I doing? But looking at what he did with a simple IV infusion, 语法解析 08:09 of these so-called stem cells. And, you know, at the time I was like, what? You actually can use that. He was able to produce changes that me, somebody who was trained, who knew all these things about autism, and I couldn't make a dent. And he could. So that made me wonder, okay, if you are a doctor whose goal is healing, 语法解析 #### ◉ 我作为一名医生，遇到干细胞疗法后，首先想到的是自己对医学知识的不足，并开始积极学习和研究。 08:32 is to make a difference. Then when you encounter something like that, your first response is, oh my goodness, what do I not know that I need to know? So that's the thing that if you are truly in your heart, you want to be a healer. That is the first question you should ask. 语法解析 08:48 What did I miss in my education? And what do I need to learn right now? So that's exactly how I felt. I was like, okay, this is a lesson that was not taught to me in medical education. What do I need to do? Do I need to read articles? Okay, let me look for them. So I had no idea that research in stem cell therapy has been so active and has been all around the world in all these different conditions from head to toe. 语法解析 09:15 A lot of them have been studied. So a lot of them have not yet because, you know, there's funding, there's limitation. But now I've put together this whole library of research studies because I started American Academy of Integrated Cell Therapy. We actually train doctors there. 语法解析 #### ◉ 我创立了美国整合细胞疗法学院，旨在通过提供已有的研究证据，帮助医生了解并应用干细胞疗法。 09:33 And I give them all these articles and they're all categorized by organ systems and disease categories. The research has been profound and has been really eye-opening because I remember the first time when I did the, the, uh, 语法解析 09:46 academy training. Some of my staff were there and just helping me. And then we had these doctors, they were making all these sounds like, oh, wow. So my staff, I was focusing on giving the lectures and my staff were saying, your doctors are making all these sounds. They were surprised. Yeah. So how cool is that? We're opening up our mind because medicine is about 语法解析 10:11 evidence. So we always talk on evidence based medicine. The problem is that most of these doctors have no idea the evidence is already there and they're not opening themselves up to what's, what's already out there. So then, um, it's time, it's time for medicine to catch up. So that's what I'm doing. I'm just trying to help, you know, so we can catch up so I can make people feel better. Um, so that's kind of my journey from being, 语法解析 10:37 a doctor in shock that stem cell therapy is actually available to somebody that has gained certain expertise the point that i can teach and and provide the knowledge and the skills uh for doctors and then later on we actually got into um the product side to to provide the best product possible because i always say there are only two things that matter in stem cell therapy 语法解析 #### ◉ 干细胞疗法的成功取决于细胞类型和注射部位的选择。 11:03 One is the cells, what you're giving people. And there's a huge difference between different types of cells. Two is where to put it. So that's the art of medicine. So I want to target both areas so we can actually give people the very best possible. 语法解析 11:18 It's incredible. Joy, you mentioned a key area. You mentioned you had a fascination with the brain and mental health early on. And then you also mentioned a profound interest in the Eastern medicine TCM sort of philosophy where you said – 语法解析 11:34 You mentioned like the energetics and this is an area that I was really, really fascinated in myself. I was studying naturopathy, but after university, I would go down to a TCM bookstore and I'd pick up a lot of the TCM books and try to understand, all right, what does kidney yin mean? 语法解析 11:53 What does kidney young, like the stomach chi, you know, that sort of stuff. And so they were speaking in a different language, but I was trying to like see the links between what does a liver chi stagnation translate to, you know, in Western medicine. Right. 语法解析 12:12 Yeah. It's not easy because really it's, it's, it's poetry about, you know, the chi stagnation. What is chi? What is it? Where is this, you know, stagnating? Like what, what's going on? And, you know, the dampness and, and, um, yeah, a lot of, you know, the fire. So where, where is it? You know, what are you talking about? But I think what is interesting is that, um, 语法解析 12:38 In Western medicine, we've gone really granular. We've gone deep and deep into the molecular, the atomic level of how things are functioning. But sometimes you 语法解析 #### ◉ 西医注重细节，而中医注重整体系统观，未来医学应结合两者优势。 12:49 You can lose the forest for the trees. So you got so deep into the details that you forgot that all these things, they can interact with each other and form a higher system of relationships. So you got deep into the tiny little relationships from A to B, but you didn't realize that this A to B is functioning in a web environment. 语法解析 13:08 of all 26 alphabets and they're all linked together. So then you lost track of how complex the true biological system is. So then if you're just focusing on A to B, then you are trying to throw drugs at the system 语法解析 13:28 which can have all these other unforeseen difficulties or unforeseen effects on these other relationships. So you're not addressing it. Whereas Chinese medicine is looking at everything in a system. So they're coming, looking at the forest. So the system is giving you this… It's hard to use a language that can summarize it. So they're using this… 语法解析 13:55 poetic language, but somehow it works because it's a system language. So I'm hoping what happens with the future of medicine is that we're actually going to use both, that we're going to be able to generate a system view, but combining this universe, this little cosmo of tiny relationships. 语法解析 14:19 And that's not easy. I think that is going to start to get beyond the human brain capacity. So we may have to really use AI to fully understand how the system relationship works. Otherwise, the two probably are going to be, it's always going to be two systems. You can't quite bridge them. 语法解析 14:39 Now, you mentioned as well, Joy, around early on you sort of dreading, you dreaded working with autistic kids because you didn't have the best sort of tools to assist and treat them, right? Like there weren't many great practical applications or interventions that could make a difference with their like autistic symptoms. Talk to us how that's evolved now with like what tools are you leveraging nowadays to treat that? 语法解析 15:09 Well, so autism, there are a whole branch of doctors that are utilizing a lot of things from a lot of nutritional therapies because the problem is we don't know what's going on with autism. That really is the bottom issue. We know little bits and pieces, but no one has a full picture. We still don't know exactly what's causing autism issues. 语法解析 #### ◉ 自闭症的病因复杂，涉及代谢途径紊乱、微生物组问题、毒素以及遗传易感性等多种因素，需要多方面综合治疗。 15:34 But we know there's some disruptions in metabolic pathways. We know there's microbiome problems, microbiome disruptions. We know there are toxicity involved, including from substances that little kids get injected with since they're born. And 语法解析 15:59 And we know there are genetic predispositions because we know families who have high prevalence of autoimmune conditions, there's a high prevalence of autism. So there are all these components that are coming together, forming the perfect storm that led to a child having such difficulty in life. So unless you address all those factors, no one is going to be fully repaired. 语法解析 16:27 So what's interesting about stem cell therapy is that it can address various portions of the puzzle. So another portion is poor blood perfusion in the brain. So that's another issue. Or oxidated damages. So antioxidants can help protect them. So now we've come to this very complex web. 语法解析 16:47 It's difficult. It's not a single cause problem. So then you need to address all those issues. And the beauty of stem cells is that it can address some of the blood perfusion issues because it can improve blood perfusion. It can improve new formation of blood vessels. 语法解析 #### ◉ 干细胞疗法可以改善自闭症的一些症状，例如改善脑部血流、调节免疫系统和修复肠道等。 17:04 So it can help with blood flow to the brain. It can help modulate your immune system so you're not as inflammatory. So when you're not as inflammatory, you tend to be more regenerative. So the body can repair different tissues. 语法解析 17:18 And can calm the immune attack on itself. It can help with the gut repair. So that's another huge part. Or even more neural pathways, right? If you can enhance the… 语法解析 17:37 availability of neuro direct, the brain drive neurotrophic factor and all these neurotransmitters, all of a sudden the, the information highway can go through. And now you've got a child that can start to speak, can control his own bowel function. So, and we've seen all that, you know, social interactions and, and, uh, ability to connect. So, um, um, 语法解析 18:00 But I would, you know, I would be arrogant to say, oh, stem cell therapy can reverse autism. We can improve it. We can help the child to gain more function. But unless we address all those factors that's causing autism in the first place, we're never going to fully allow a child to be a normal, right, normal as far as the social interaction goes, the father. 语法解析 18:28 the type of functioning we want to see. So, but we're making a lot of headways and, and I've seen some really good results, even just with opening up the, we, we, we, we help open up the blood brain barrier. We bring the stem cells into the brain. We use certain nutrition, nutritional therapies. We use the laser light to help with mitochondria health and, and help to direct the cells into the brain further and, 语法解析 18:57 Yeah, so a combination of treatments, peptides, very helpful. So yeah, it's a combination. Yeah, from what it sounds like, Joy, I mean, when we're dealing with a complex condition like autism, it requires a multifactorial, multimodal, multi-intervention sort of approach where you're leveraging the latest applications. 语法解析 19:20 And the best, you know, I would say like interventions and biohacks, these are definitely outside the box things, but this is truly the cutting edge and you're well and truly at the forefront of it all. But what would you say in terms of like stem cell therapy in particular, what would you say are some of the common myths that people have? Like, yeah, the common myths that are out there around stem cell therapy. 语法解析 #### ◉ 关于干细胞疗法，一个普遍的误解是美国无法进行干细胞治疗。 19:45 Oh my goodness. There's so many myths and it's, uh, I I've been painstakingly trying to dispel the myths for, for, you know, I don't know, six, seven years. And I'm shocked at how persistent myths are. It's interesting. People are holding onto it. And it's not just because, you know, there's a self perpetuating pattern, but there's active perpetuation of these myths because people who we know, um, 语法解析 20:11 who we respect, you know, even celebrities are perpetuating the myths. So somebody like Joe Rogan or Tony Robbins, who I adore and respect, but they're perpetuating the myths that you cannot get stem cell therapy in the United States. And that just cannot be farther from the truth. That is simply not true. And I just don't know how 语法解析 20:35 this myth keep perpetuating. Because till this day, I can't tell you how often people… 语法解析 20:42 Somehow got into my little universe of information. And then they come to me saying, oh, my God, before I heard her, you speak. We thought we had to go overseas to get stem cell treatment until this day. People are still saying that. And it's just not true. OK, it's true that the United States, the current medical system is not friendly to stem cell therapy. 语法解析 21:05 When I talk about current medical system, I'm talking about the doctors, the big pharma, the insurance company, the AMA, right? The medical boards and the FDA. Nobody is friendly. It doesn't mean that this therapy is not so powerful that it's not going to just grow and blossom on its own. And that's exactly what we've seen. So despite that, 语法解析 21:31 the the atmosphere of lack of support so really it's so unsupportive the doctors who are doing it they don't know how to tell people they're doing it because they cannot advertise on google and 语法解析 21:47 on Instagram, on Facebook, if they try, the ad is going to be turned down. They're going to say, well, you are conducting an unproven therapy. So sorry, we're just not going to let you run the ad. Even to the point of, I remember one doctor was trying to advertise for testosterone replacement, right? This is accepted. It's okay. We can replace hormones for God's sake. 语法解析 22:14 his ad was turned down by Google. Guess what Google said? He showed me the Google's response. Google said, well, on your website, you talked about PRP. So PRP is a form of regenerative medicine, right? A lot of insurance companies actually cover it and has been studied ad nauseum that is effective. But then Google said, this is a part of, it's within the same categories as stem cells, et cetera. This is 语法解析 22:39 without, um, there's no FDA approval. So it's unproven therapy. So you're promoting a unproven therapy. So nevermind. There are thousands of research papers published on it. So Dr. Google decided that, no, this is not real medicine and we're not going to let you, um, 语法解析 22:57 Not only, yeah, just because you mentioned that in your website, so we're not going to let you advertise your testosterone replacement. So this is the level of suppression that's going on in the U.S. But guess what? Despite that, in the last five years, the number of stem cell clinics have quadrupled. So this just shows you the power within the U.S., 语法解析 23:18 The power of the treatment is the cells that are the shining stars. You cannot suppress them. Guess what's in it? It's the light for life. 语法解析 23:30 It's intelligence for life. It's how we become who we are. It's that kind of power and intelligence that now we as doctors, we're the conduits. We are transplanting it from a very young… You can do it from your own body too. It's just not as potent. But you can transfer it from a young… For me, I use umbilical cord to write stem cells. Young, untainted signals. Transplanting it from this newborn umbilical cord to… 语法解析 23:58 to a person that needs it 语法解析 24:02 And then the power within these cells is promoting all these regeneration and calming the inflammation, modulating the immune system, triggering local repairs, and then forming new vasculature, fighting off microbes, even fighting off cancer. So all these properties have been studied over and over again. There's plenty of everything I'm saying, there's research backing it. Nothing I say is my own opinion. So 语法解析 24:30 because of how the cells work, because of the fact they actually help people get better. You cannot suppress that. You don't think someone's suffering from whatever condition that had gotten no good help from traditional medicine. And then they 语法解析 24:46 They recovered in an incredible manner. You don't think they're going to tell everybody. You don't think their family members are not going to be excited about it and to want to try it for themselves. You can't suppress that. You can't suppress real healing. It just, there's power behind it. 语法解析 25:01 Now, in terms of the types of stem cells, you mentioned that the ones that you're sort of leveraging are the umbilical cord-derived stem cells. There are many different types. Is there a reason why you lean towards those particular ones? 语法解析 #### ◉ 我选择使用脐带来源的干细胞是因为它们比其他来源的干细胞更有效、更安全。 25:16 Yes, because I've looked into the differences between these cells. So when I first started in stem cell therapy, I thought, well, if I'm going to devote all my time and energy into this, I better know which one's the best. I don't want to waste my time giving a subpar product. So let me compare these different modalities because you can get stem cells from your bone marrow, your own bone marrow, or from the fat of your own body. 语法解析 25:45 Or you can get it from an umbilical cord. So those are the three major types. There are also other types such as getting it from the bone marrow from somebody else, right? So that's the bone marrow transplant. That's the first, the earliest stem cell transplantation really from the 1960s. So 语法解析 26:06 or but everybody says their method is the best so that's whenever everybody says they're the best that is that's time to pause right okay now it's time to really take a deep look to see who is the best so why don't i look at research studies who has studied who have compared directly between these sources so if anybody's interested i actually 语法解析 26:31 gave all my, the research I've done of published papers in this, in this lecture, I ended up putting online is called, are OMSEs created equal? And of course they're not. But it's a 40 minute lecture. I just kept going over articles and articles is all about 语法解析 26:50 research stats behind the comparison. So the bottom line is when you look at every parameter, whether or not it's how young the cells are, how long their telomeres are, which means how many generations they have left, how active metabolically are, how anti-inflammatory, how neuroprotective, how wide their differentiation potentials are. Just looking at every parameter, there's no 语法解析 27:16 debate really of which one is superior. So when I realized that, okay, the umbilical cord sores, the younger one is superior as far as the ability to help the body repair, then that's the one I'm going to use. Yeah. So not only they are more potent, they're actually safer. This is very important point. 语法解析 27:38 When you use your own stem cells, your stem cells have gone through your whole life with you. Every cigarette you smoke, every alcohol drink you had, every bad food you had, and all the seed oils you consumed, all can affect your stem cells. If you don't believe me, if you think your stem cells are immune to it, just think of sperm and egg. 语法解析 27:57 Why are we worried about the health of the pregnancy when the mother is older and when the father is older? Because even the most precious germline cells is affected by your age. So everything is affected by your age. So if I can give people younger cells that's more potent, but also safer, safer in the sense that it's actually safe. 语法解析 28:26 capable of recognizing cancer cells. So when you use your own cells, it has declined, not just as it's more sluggish, but it's also kind of dumber. You know, I hate to say that I call it cellular dementia. It's like they call it a little bit of dementia. It's like, oh, you're our cancer cell. Oh, I don't know. I like all cells. So let me help you grow. I help everything to grow. I'm just that kind of, right? I'm just friendly. I'm a stem cell. 语法解析 28:54 No, that's not how you should be acting. You should be vigilant when it comes to cancer cells. You want to wake up and start to tell the cancer cells to die. And that's exactly what umbilical cord derived mesenchymal stem cells can do. And that has been used as a cancer treatment, you know, in multiple clinical studies showing benefits. So there's a direct comparison of umbilical cord MSCs, mesenchymal stem cells. So this is one of the popular type of stem cells. 语法解析 29:22 And then when you compare that with fat-derived MSCs and you put them next to a cancer cell or tumor, in both cases of whether or not you're putting it in a petri dish or on the live animal's body, in both cases, the fat-derived MSCs make the cancer grow bigger and bigger. But on bloco-core-derived MSCs make the cancer shrink and go away. This is how powerfully different 语法解析 29:49 They are. So as a doctor, I swore the oath of do no harm, right? So if I know that if I give you your own stem cells, there's a potential that we can exacerbate existing cancer. And we all know everybody… 语法解析 30:04 probably have cancer cells floating around in the body. It's kind of the fact of life. But just because you have them doesn't mean you're going to get cancer because your body can get rid of them. But if you put in exogenous agents that actually help them to grow more, then it's concerning, right? Nobody wants that. So from all these considerations, that's why I landed on umbilical cord derived stem cells. I think it's just a safer and better way to go. 语法解析 30:33 Awesome. Awesome. And Joy, in terms of complementary products that you usually tag alongside like stem cell therapy, are there any particular like nutraceuticals, vitamins or ingredients or maybe glutathione or antioxidants that you like to work in synergy with stem cell therapy? 语法解析 #### ◉ 我通常会结合一些补充剂来增强干细胞疗法的效果，例如氨基酸混合物、富里酸、一氧化氮和STEM Regen。 30:52 Yeah, actually in our clinic, we include a few supplements. So I try not to overwhelm patients because you know how many supplements there are. It can get overwhelming. I'm not the kind that I want to bombard the body with supplements. And we all know people who are super healthy who do not take supplements. What do they do? They eat healthy. They exercise. They have good physical activities. 语法解析 31:18 Um, and they have a good mental state. So I think there's a lot to say about what you can do when you give your body the basic elements and how the body is able to thrive. So I kind of subscribe to that kind of philosophy to give your body what it needs to thrive. However, in modern days, sometimes it's hard to give the body everything it needs, including the basic nutrition. So that's why, um, I recommend, um, 语法解析 31:47 For example, amino acid blend. So amino acids are the building blocks for peptides, proteins, and all the structures that require protein in the body or enzymes. So if you don't have the proper essential amino acids, you're never going to really fully build what your body need. And then all your functions are going to be lagging. So I want to make sure that people have enough of these basic ingredients to build life. So essential amino acids are 语法解析 32:16 I think it's very important. And then I also recommend fulvic acid. So fulvic acid came from Shilajit, that's from the Indian tradition. 语法解析 32:32 These brownish, you know, resin substance that's really a breakdown product of organic matter of plants. But when bacteria break them down, they end up producing these tiny little molecules called fulvic acid that can drag all these minerals on its back, deliver them. 语法解析 32:49 to yourselves and then changes polarity to grab toxins out of yourselves. I think of it as a nature's way of recycling essential elements of life. So the plant matters fall down, it changed into these basic elements for big asset. We'll grab them and help them to get into the next plant and then animals eat the plant. And so there goes the cycle of life. So I think that's something that's really important. I have a podcast on this particular, um, 语法解析 33:17 fulvic acid and Dr. Hoover, who was my, um, my guest and he was saying how he used to have 200 supplements in his office and you know, a lot of them. And sometimes people respond, sometimes they, they didn't. And what he realized was that when you use something like fulvic acid, it's like an equalizer. Some people that did not respond now is responding because guess what? You're giving them the basic elements, um, 语法解析 33:44 to thrive in life, right? For biological functions. That's why if everybody's supplemented now, everybody can respond to the next treatment because you're equalizing this, this basic requirements. So that's another one I use. Um, and then, uh, another one I do implement is called nitric oxide, and I'm sure you're familiar, you know, if you like workouts and all that stuff. So nitric oxide help dilate blood vessels, also mobilizes stem cells, 语法解析 34:10 It has profound effects on all kinds of organs and it's antimicrobial as well. But blood perfusion is really the basics of life. Any of your organs. That's why we have diabetic ulcers. They're not healing. If you start to let the blood flow, guess what? They're going to be healing. The blood is going to bring in all the nutrients and take away the toxic substances. And now you can start to rebuild. 语法解析 34:39 So these are foundations. And then I also add another one called STEM Regen. 语法解析 34:43 which helps to kick out more stem cells from the bone marrow. So if you think about me giving people stem cells, they're circulating and a lot of them go back to the bone marrow. I don't want them to stay in the bone marrow. Staying in the bone marrow does no good. This is why people are doing bone marrow stem cell treatments, right? You have everything in you. Why aren't you healing? Why do they have to drill your bones and to get the stem cells out of there and then put in your blood? So sitting in your bones, it's… 语法解析 35:10 It's doing nobody any good. You have to get them out and let them circulate, let them find places where they're needed. Now they can start to actually do what they're designed to do. So what I want to do is to make sure that they're circulating. So I want people to take the substance to allow the stem cells to circulate because the number of circulating stem cells correlate with how fast and how well you can heal. 语法解析 35:34 So these are like the four foundations. Of course, I can use, you know, we talk about the methylene blue. I love methylene blue. I take it every day because I so want to make sure my brain is functioning well because if my brain is not functioning well, I don't really want to be here. But I don't care how well my body's working. So and then glutathione. Glutathione is great for 语法解析 35:59 detoxification for I think people with concerns of neurological issues, brain issues. I think that's really helpful, but it helps with everything, right? When you help detoxify, you help your liver to fight oxidative damages and that's very helpful, but there's so many supplements, but that's kind of the range I want to, you know, I don't want to go too much beyond that. Awesome. Awesome. Fantastic. Yeah. I'm familiar with a lot of those compounds and definitely a big fan of a lot of those ones. 语法解析 36:28 Joy, you mentioned the future direction that you want to take your multiple businesses in. One of them you said you want to do mobile stem cell treatment. So basically, you know, the patients don't have to go into the clinic, you go to them. Do you think that this is like the future of stem cell therapy? 语法解析 #### ◉ 我认为移动干细胞治疗是干细胞疗法的未来发展方向之一，可以为更多患者提供便利。 36:48 Um, like everything, so many things have become, um, you know, the telehealth and mobile. I definitely think it's a huge, huge help for people who don't have, uh, the ability to, to travel. You know, some people are wheelchair bound in, in some people don't have the time and, uh, and for people who live in remote areas and just to give them access, um, 语法解析 37:13 Um, it's just the convenience factor. It's really important. Um, of course I want to provide something that's high quality, right? Anybody can say I'll deliver stem cells, but what kind of stem cells are you giving and are you doing it the right way? So I want to make sure that, you know, I, I, I can create something that's giving people the very best, but, um, but there's 语法解析 37:37 Health is complex. So there may be people who want different injections, different joint injections, and it may be a little more challenging to do it mobile, right? You have to deliver a doctor over there and do these injections. And sometimes injections may need… 语法解析 37:53 certain imaging, you know, ultrasound guided, for example, it just becomes more complex. So I don't think anything is going to fully replace clinics, but I think it's incredible addition to get it into people's, you know, into people because it definitely can be a roadblock when people have to travel. Yeah, that's definitely going to be a game changer for people who are 语法解析 38:19 They're desperate to use this sort of treatment, but they don't have the capacity. There's other people that want that luxury. They want to just be able to do it from their home. I'm sure you're probably treating many different celebrities from their home in terms of that way. But in terms of any other areas of health, Joy, that you're, I guess, excited to see more research on, 语法解析 38:44 utilizing stem cell therapy? Is there a particular space or area that you're excited to see more research on? Gosh, just everything. I think we need more research on definitely for brain conditions. It would be great to get some more studies, mental health. I think they're just not enough because people ask me about it. I just, I don't have very much research to cite. 语法解析 #### ◉ 未来需要更多关于干细胞疗法治疗脑部疾病和精神健康问题的研究。 39:09 because there's not enough studies on humans. So for some of the neurodegenerative conditions, there are some studies. There are more animal studies that have shown promises, but there are not enough human studies. And then for mental health, it's very, very much lacking. Even addiction. Addiction actually has some interesting animal studies showing how alcoholic rats 语法解析 39:34 getting drastic improvements in their alcohol addiction by being administered stem cells. So that's pretty cool, but we just, we lack in human studies. So it'd be nice to see that. 语法解析 39:47 Are there any other final areas of health or interventions in the biohacking space that you want to encourage patients to look into? Or there's certain things that you think move the needle a lot when it comes to optimizing health that people neglect that you want to share to my listeners? 语法解析 #### ◉ 除了健康饮食、运动和充足睡眠外，肽类物质、生物调节剂和能量疗法（如激光疗法）对优化健康也大有裨益。 40:09 Okay. Besides eating healthy and exercising and adequate sleep, and those are definitely non-negotiables, what can move the needle? I think peptides. It's a huge, huge area, very powerful. And that has given me just… 语法解析 40:34 a lot of, you know, sense of empowerment as a doctor, because before it's a little bit of shotgun approach, giving somebody stem cells. I'm hoping the cells would do things, do exactly what you're hoping for, but sometimes it does other things. It heals, you know, repairs other systems, but not the exact one that you're looking at. If you have gut issues, sorry, you know, I made you sleep better. I made your energy level higher, or I healed your, your, your, 语法解析 41:01 aches and pains, but that your gut is not as good as you were hoping for. Now I can be more targeted. Now I can say, okay, let's give you some gut healing peptides. So I can do that with all different organ systems. And that has made it really fun to help patients because now I have more tools. 语法解析 41:23 So doctors, you know, we are really just like conventional doctors. They're not very much helpful when they don't have drugs, right? Let's say you take away medications from doctors and see how they do, right? So if you have all these medications, then they feel really, really empowered. And same thing with these more natural forms of therapy. I can give you something that your body can already produce that helps. 语法解析 41:49 has the capability to heal you. This is why there are spontaneous remissions. What's going on there, right? Try to explain that with your science. So because your body has the capability already that's inside of it. So what can you do to trigger those mechanisms? 语法解析 42:07 So the more tools we have, the better. So now with peptides, the bioregulators and energy therapy, which is really, really awesome. So in our clinic, we incorporate this laser therapy that has profound effects. So people may not realize, you know, you know, what did God say? That there be light, right? So light is really, really important for life. 语法解析 42:33 So when we use a laser therapy, we've seen incredible results and sometimes astounding even for something like musculoskeletal issues or chronic brain issues, spasms and so on. 语法解析 42:50 Different, even people with, you know, kind of comatose. We've seen incredible results by just shining the light on a person. So they're profound and how we can incorporate light into our treatments. People can always do red light therapy, but that's just one form of, you know, low, you 语法解析 43:13 It's kind of a little bit more shotgun approach of light, so it's not focused. Whereas certain laser therapy can be very focused and higher power, not to the point where you can cut tissue and damage. It's actually low-level laser, so it's gentle on the tissue, but you can deliver a lot of this light at certain frequency. 语法解析 43:37 And you can also change the frequency of how the light is shown on the tissue. So how fast the light is flickering can also talk to different tissues. This is what's fascinating. It's almost like a Morse code, right? You're kind of talking to tissues by changing the frequency of the light, how the light is shining on the tissue. So that's what we're using in the clinic called ART. 语法解析 44:03 We can change frequency to talk to different tissues. So that's pretty amazing. And in the future, yeah, medicine is rapidly changing. We're not even talking about potential in the future. We're going to be able to edit genes. I mean, that's the whole, right? And then… 语法解析 44:24 Right. The constant editing we can have, you know, there are talks of nanobots. So that's, that's a, you know, we're going to get there and I believe in our lifetime and people are going to be shocked. Yeah. When we're there, it's going to arise sooner than you, than you think it can. It's literally right around the corner before you know it, it's going to be, you know, 2027. And a lot of these therapies are just going to be like at our fingertips, you 语法解析 44:48 And it'll be people like yourself sort of educating. But, you know, you're many, many years ahead, right? You're years ahead. You saw this coming. But I think it's definitely an exciting space. I'm really, really excited to see more 语法解析 45:02 more of these therapies available to us as humans, not only to necessarily treat disease, but to optimize and improve overall human health. I've got a number of people that listen to this podcast that are not necessarily like sick per se. They just want to feel amazing. They want to wake up with energy. They want to have good quality sleep. They want to be able to train every day. They want to be able to be productive. They want to be there for their family. People just want to maximize life. So I guess… 语法解析 45:31 the work that you're putting out there, you know, you're a great speaker. You've educated, you know, many, many doctors around the world. Keep doing what you're doing. It's a, it's a great thing for, for humanity. I would say a very philanthropic thing. So yeah, it's a lot of fun. I'll tell you because so right now we have four other doctors at our clinic and, and of course I've, 语法解析 45:56 know trained all of them and uh you know the consensus is like dr khan we're having so much fun this is really fun this is amazing because they're seeing whatever they're doing it's really moving the needles for the patients 语法解析 46:10 I mean, they are able to produce results that a specialist for these patients cannot produce. So all of a sudden, medicine is fun again. I would say, you know, let's make medicine fun again. Wait, is this a, was it? It's so funny. M-F-A. I like that. I'll start using that as a hashtag on my Instagram posts. 语法解析 46:37 Seriously, be inspired. Be an inspired healer and be an inspired patient. Feel the hope because we have so many incredible tools. Incredible. Well, Joy, for my listeners, if they want to connect with you, check out your clinic, book in with you or see your social media, where can they do so? 语法解析 47:01 So definitely they can go to my website. Personal website is joykongmd.com. So that's an easy place to see everything I'm doing from the stem cell company to the skin cream that I use. 语法解析 #### ◉ 我的网站joykongmd.com 和Instagram doctorjoykong 是联系我的途径。 47:16 It's called Chara Omni to my memoir, Tiger of Beijing, and then to my clinic, Chara Health in Los Angeles. And they can always go to my Instagram, doctor underscore joy underscore Kong. Uh, I'm very, I'm very friendly. I'm very communicative. So I, I like, you know, paying attention to what people need and to really help them. So, um, I always respond. And then, um, 语法解析 47:41 I have my YouTube channel that anyone that wants to dig deeper into what stem cell therapy can do for you and what are the different questions. There are so many questions people ask. This is why I just keep putting out videos because everyone's saying, well, what about this? What about that? So I want to educate patients. So you can get a lot. 语法解析 48:03 From there, you can get lots of questions answered just by putting my name, Joy Kong, MD on YouTube, and then I'll pop right up and then just go down the rabbit hole. Awesome. I'll make sure to leave those linked in the podcast show notes. But otherwise, Joy, thank you so much for featuring on the podcast. Oh, thank you so much, Lucas. It's been a pleasure. 语法解析 48:28 Optimize your nutrition this year with Factor, America's number one ready-to-eat meal service. Factor's fresh, never-frozen meals are dietitian-approved, ready to eat in just two minutes. Choose from 40 weekly options across eight dietary preferences like Calorie Smart, Protein Plus, and Keto. Eat smarter at factormeals.com slash listen50 and use code listen50 for 50% off plus free shipping on your first box. factormeals.com slash listen50. 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