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我深信，良好的睡眠始于清晨沐浴在UVA光线下。这并非偶然，UVA光照促进血清素的生成，而血清素是褪黑素的前体。充足的褪黑素则能引导我们进入深度睡眠，并促进身体的修复和再生。

DHA（二十二碳六烯酸）的独特之处在于其π电子云结构。当光线照射到DHA的π电子云时，会激发电子，产生直流电，这就是爱因斯坦所描述的光电效应。DHA在皮肤中高度富集，这并非巧合。富含氘的食物通常在阳光充足的季节才能获得，因为阳光照射有助于我们排出体内的氘。然而，在非阳光季节食用例如橙子等水果，会导致氘的积累，进而可能损害线粒体的功能，而我们又无法通过减少阳光照射来有效地排出这些多余的氘。

疼痛，并非全然是坏事。它是一种重要的信号，提醒我们身体出现了问题，需要关注。大脑中存在多种疼痛信号通路，这突显了疼痛在进化中的重要性。那些天生缺乏痛觉的人往往寿命较短，因为他们无法从疼痛中学习，从而避免未来的伤害。疼痛，是身体学习和适应环境的重要机制。即使我们明知某些行为有害，但只有亲身体验过疼痛，才能真正铭记于心。慢性疼痛则不同，它缺乏明确的生物学意义，我认为这是现代人与自然脱节的直接后果。

慢性疼痛的成因复杂，可能源于持续的疼痛信号刺激，也可能是身体持续接收到了错误的疼痛信号指令，即使没有实际的组织损伤。这与我们的整体生活环境息息相关，包括我们每天接触到的所有事物，以及细胞的健康状况等。这些因素都可能导致大脑误判，从而发出持续的疼痛信号。

人类是否是唯一遭受慢性疼痛的物种？我对此持保留态度。我认为，前额叶皮层的大小与慢性疼痛的发生密切相关。人类发达的前额叶皮层赋予我们高度的认知能力，让我们几乎可以“想”出疼痛来。而其他物种，即使是与我们亲缘关系最近的灵长类动物，其前额叶皮层也远不及人类发达，因此不太可能出现这种认知性的慢性疼痛。当然，其他物种也可能经历感觉性的慢性疼痛，例如组织损伤或细胞能量不足导致的慢性感觉刺激。

面对持续数月的疼痛，我们必须追根溯源。在着手治疗之前，必须先了解疼痛的三个关键方面：感觉、情绪和认知。组织损伤总是会引发疼痛信号，而组织退化则不一定。细胞pH值的改变（酸化）会增加疼痛信号的可能性，感觉神经会将信号传递到大脑，大脑再将疼痛信号反馈到受损区域，促使我们采取行动。疼痛并非发生在受损组织本身，而是由大脑产生的。

疼痛与大脑的情感中枢紧密相连，因此疼痛往往伴随着负面情绪。这种情绪反应至关重要，它教会我们避免未来可能造成疼痛的事件。即使是挚爱之人无意中伤害到我们，我们也会感到生气，这正是进化赋予我们的保护机制。

认知层面，过度思考疼痛会将情绪和认知中枢紧密联系起来，形成恶性循环。持续的焦虑会激活情绪和感觉中枢，导致大脑持续发出疼痛信号，即使没有实际的组织损伤。感觉疼痛信号几乎存在于所有动物身上，而只有脊椎动物才会产生与疼痛相关的情绪反应。人类则更进一步，我们高度发达的认知能力让我们能够过度思考和担忧，这使得认知性疼痛成为人类特有的现象。

针对慢性膝盖疼痛，如果疼痛持续时间较短（例如几个月），问题可能仅仅在于感觉疼痛信号的过度刺激。这时，我们可以通过补充电解质、接地、红光或阳光照射来增加组织的电荷，并改善代谢健康来缓解疼痛。但如果疼痛持续多年，则可能已经形成了认知、情绪和感觉的恶性循环，需要更全面的干预措施。

饮食方面，我建议食用全食物，尽可能选择有机食品，并优先选择动物性食物。动物性食物营养丰富，易于吸收，更符合人类的进化历史。碳水化合物并非洪水猛兽，但应优先选择全食物碳水化合物，避免加工食品。扰乱昼夜节律是导致代谢健康不良的主要因素，而加工食品则会加剧这一问题。

线粒体是细胞的能量工厂，它通过分解食物中的化学键来获取电子，这些电子参与电子传递链，最终产生ATP（三磷酸腺苷）、展开蛋白质并构建水结构。结构水是细胞电荷的载体，保持细胞的电荷对于减少疼痛信号至关重要。因此，健康的饮食至关重要。

食用本地和当季的植物性食物非常重要，因为它们带有阳光的印记，并且氘含量较低。植物会将光环境印记到自身物质中，当我们食用这些植物时，这些光信号也会被传递到我们的身体。如果植物的光环境与我们的外部环境不符，可能会导致线粒体功能紊乱。氘是一种重氢同位素，会干扰ATP的产生。富含氘的食物通常在阳光充足的季节供应，因为阳光照射有助于我们排出氘。在非阳光季节食用非本地食物会导致氘的积累，损害线粒体功能。

阳光照射不仅能为植物留下印记，还会影响肠道健康。肠道菌群分解食物时会释放光线，这些光线会照射到肠道内壁。如果肠道内壁的光信号与外部环境的光信号不符，可能会导致免疫系统紊乱。

除了饮食，阳光照射和接地也至关重要。阳光照射能促进维生素D的生成，并具有抗凝血作用。然而，我们应循序渐进地增加阳光照射时间，避免晒伤。接地则能帮助我们吸收地球的负电荷，改善身体的电荷平衡。

褪黑素和维生素D在许多方面具有相似的作用。夏季，阳光充足，我们应该多晒太阳，促进维生素D的生成；冬季，日照时间减少，我们应该减少蓝光照射，促进褪黑素的生成。盲目补充维生素D或褪黑素可能会抑制体内自身合成，因此应优先关注昼夜节律的调节。

我个人并不依赖于多种膳食补充剂，我更注重饮食、阳光照射和接地。运动也能促进能量的释放和利用，而一些被动性的方法，例如泡沫轴按摩，则有助于放松筋膜，改善血液循环。

对于想要改善健康的人，我建议循序渐进，从最关键的问题入手，逐步调整生活方式。

总而言之，健康并非一蹴而就，而是一个持续学习和调整的过程。通过关注饮食、阳光照射、接地、运动以及心理健康，我们可以更好地调动身体的能量，维护细胞的健康，最终获得身心和谐。

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00:26 良好的睡眠始于UVA光照，以便产生褪黑素，从而帮助入睡和深度修复睡眠。

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00:53 DHA通过光电效应产生直流电，富含氘的食物通常在阳光充足的季节可用，以帮助身体通过阳光照射减少氘。

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01:25 在弗吉尼亚州，如果在非阳光季节食用橙子等食物，会积累氘，可能破坏线粒体，且无法通过减少阳光照射来减少氘。

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01:48 疼痛的目的是提醒我们身体有问题，需要注意。

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02:12 身体有多种疼痛信号通路，表明疼痛对身体非常重要。

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02:30 先天无法感受到疼痛的人往往寿命不长，因为他们无法从疼痛中学习避免伤害。

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02:53 疼痛教会身体避免未来可能造成的伤害。

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03:15 即使父母告诫不要做某事，人们还是会亲身体验以学习，疼痛也是如此。

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03:40 疼痛使我们能够改变行为，避免未来再次受伤。

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03:53 慢性疼痛是不正常的，因为它没有明确的有利目的。

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04:14 慢性疼痛是现代生活方式与自然脱节的直接结果。

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04:30 慢性疼痛可能源于持续的疼痛信号刺激，或身体持续接收到产生疼痛信号的指令，即使没有实际损伤。

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04:57 慢性疼痛与我们的整体环境有关，包括身体每天接触的一切，以及细胞健康等因素，这些都可能导致大脑感知到问题并产生疼痛信号。

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05:28 人类是否是唯一遭受慢性疼痛的物种尚不确定，但从我的角度来看，其他物种似乎不太可能患有慢性疼痛，因为前额叶皮层的大小是产生疼痛信号的关键。

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05:52 人类前额叶皮层的高度认知能力，使我们几乎可以通过思考来产生疼痛反应，这在其他物种中并不常见。

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06:19 其他物种也可能经历感觉性慢性疼痛，例如组织损伤或细胞电荷低导致的慢性感觉刺激。

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06:44 认知性的慢性疼痛可能不存在于其他物种中，因为其发生机制不同。

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07:06 当疼痛持续存在数月时，我们需要调查其原因。

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07:26 在解决疼痛问题之前，需要了解疼痛的三个不同方面。

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07:40 组织损伤总是会引起疼痛信号，而退化可能会或可能不会引起疼痛信号。

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08:02 细胞的pH值变化（变得更酸性）会增加疼痛信号的可能性，感觉神经会接收到信号并将其传递到大脑。

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08:11 大脑会发送疼痛信号到受损区域，以引起注意，从而促使我们改变行为。

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08:39 疼痛位于大脑中，因为大脑会发出疼痛信号，而感觉组织本身并不发出疼痛信号。

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09:01 疼痛与大脑的情感中心紧密相连，因此我们通常会对疼痛产生负面情绪反应。

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09:26 情绪与疼痛的联系非常重要，因为它教会我们避免未来引起疼痛的事物。

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09:39 即使我们知道是意外，我们仍然会对造成疼痛的人感到生气，因为情绪反应教会我们避免未来的疼痛。

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10:06 认知方面，过度思考疼痛会使情绪和认知中心连接在一起。

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10:30 过度担心疼痛会激活情绪和感觉中心，导致大脑发出感觉信号，即使没有实际的身体创伤或化学变化。

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10:55 感觉疼痛信号存在于所有动物中，甚至包括无脊椎动物。

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11:05 只有脊椎动物才具有情感反应，以避免未来再次受伤。

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11:31 人类独特之处在于我们有很强的能力去担心和思考，因此认知方面的疼痛对我们来说是独特的。

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11:52 慢性膝盖疼痛可能只是由于过度刺激的感觉疼痛信号，组织中的pH值和电荷持续降低。

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12:21 治疗方法包括使用电解质治疗肌肉，或通过赤脚接触地面、红光或阳光来增加身体的电荷。

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12:51 改善代谢健康，如通过食用全食物和调整昼夜节律，可以增加细胞的电荷，防止疼痛信号的发生。

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13:12 如果膝盖疼痛持续多年，可能已经将认知、情绪和感觉区域连接在一起，需要进行大脑的重新连接。

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13:28 通过增加组织电荷、接地和红外线照射来改善感觉，可能有助于缓解疼痛，但可能仍需要进行大脑的重新连接。

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13:58 解决疼痛问题的方法取决于疼痛持续的时间，以及当前的身体环境。

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14:29 饮食方面，建议食用全食物，尽可能选择有机食品，并优先考虑动物性食物。

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14:50 建议食用全食物，适量摄入碳水化合物，并避免加工碳水化合物。

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15:08 最佳选择是全食物碳水化合物，而不是加工碳水化合物，如谷物和糖类。

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15:35 扰乱昼夜节律是导致代谢健康不良的主要原因，而加工食品饮食会加剧这一问题。

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15:58 改善代谢健康的关键在于去除加工食品，优化昼夜节律。

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16:23 线粒体通过分解食物的化学键来获取电子，用于电子传递链，从而产生ATP，展开蛋白质，构建水结构，而结构水可以保持电荷。

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16:38 为了保持细胞的电荷，减少疼痛信号的可能性，需要构建水结构，而线粒体可以制造代谢水和结构水。

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17:04 饮食上，最好以动物性食物为基础，搭配各种植物性食物，并选择当季的全食物碳水化合物。

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17:34 食用本地和当季的植物非常重要，因为它们带有阳光的印记，并且氘含量较低。

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17:39 本地和当季的食物非常重要，因为阳光的印记和氘含量。

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18:07 植物与环境紧密相连，会将光环境印记到其物质中。

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18:25 阳光中的电子带有光信号，当植物在特定环境中生长，我们食用这些植物并获取电子时，植物的光环境几乎被下载到我们的生理机能和线粒体中。

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18:47 如果线粒体的光环境与外部环境不同，可能会导致线粒体解偶联和身体混乱。

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19:07 食用来自世界各地的食物可能会导致身体混乱。

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19:37 严格的食肉饮食可能改善健康，部分原因可能是消除了不同的光信号。

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19:44 食用本地和当季食物的重要性在于，可以从外部环境和内部食物中获得相似的光信号。

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20:11 氘是一种重氢，会干扰ATP的产生。

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20:21 氘是氢的同位素，带有一个额外的中子。

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20:50 氘会堵塞ATP酶复合物，阻止ATP的产生，从而破坏线粒体。

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21:14 氘存在于所有食物中，但植物性食物中更多，富含氘的食物通常在阳光充足的季节可用，因为身体可以通过阳光照射来减少氘。

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21:42 水果和蔬菜等食物通常在阳光充足的季节供应，因为身体可以通过阳光照射来减少氘。

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22:04 海岸附近的泉水氘含量较高，而冰川或山区泉水氘含量较低，这都与环境相适应。

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22:25 在弗吉尼亚州的冬季食用非当季水果会导致氘的积累，从而破坏线粒体，并且由于阳光不足，身体无法有效减少氘。

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22:54 即使在冬季获得大量阳光，其角度也不如夏季直接，因此食用非本地和非当季食物会导致慢性疾病和代谢功能障碍。

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23:25 冬季在加州生长的草莓运到安大略省，会带来错误的光印记和氘，而且由于缺乏阳光，会产生负面影响。

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23:46 在世界不同地区，某种食物可能对某些人有益，但对另一些人则可能造成问题，因此食物的选择并非如此简单。

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24:14 我们本不应该食用离我们居住地几英里以外的食物。

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24:43 热带地区的人们食用某些食物之所以有益，可能是因为他们所处的环境适合食用这些食物，但这并不意味着这些食物对世界各地的人都有益。

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24:50 长途运输的食物营养价值会降低。

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25:18 食用本地食物不仅对环境有益，而且对我们自身也有益，食肉饮食的好处可能与更好的营养吸收或避免植物毒素有关，但也可能与光和氘有关。

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Coming up on today's show. How much serotonin you make when you get UVA light in mid-morning is going to dictate how much melatonin you can make later when you block blue light after sunset. So the storage of serotonin, that's going to be converted to melatonin later. So I tell people your good night's sleep starts with UVA rise so that you can get the melatonin. And the melatonin, again, is going to help you signal to go to sleep, but then have deep healing sleep as well. And DHA has what's called a pi electron cloud. 语法解析

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around it. And when light hits that electron cloud, it excites it and it literally creates DC electricity from that. This is what Einstein described as the photoelectric effect. That's what DHA does for us, which is why it's concentrated in high amounts of skin. And it's no mistake that the foods that have higher amounts of deuterium are typically available either in the season where there's more sunlight or if you live in a place where there's sunlight year round. And that's for a purpose because our body is able to deplete deuterium through sunlight exposure. 语法解析

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But if, again, we are eating foods out of season in Virginia where I am, I'm eating oranges and whatever, then I am accumulating deuterium that could be breaking my mitochondria and I'm not able to deplete it as well because I'm not getting as much sunlight. When it comes to pain, let's talk about going from normal healthy response to when it becomes pathological. We think of pain as a bad thing because it's so uncomfortable, right? And we don't necessarily want it. 语法解析

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And as soon as we have it, we want to get rid of it. But it wouldn't be there if it didn't have a purpose. Right. So there's a reason for pain and it's to signal to us that there's something wrong and that we need to pay attention to that. Whether it's the tissue on our body that's been damaged and we need to pay attention to that tissue or it's something that's hurting us and we need to pay attention to that thing and make sure that that thing goes away. 语法解析

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So it has this very important role in the body and it's very evolutionarily preserved because there's many different pathways in the brain that can signal for pain, which is why they have trouble making pain drugs because there's so many different pathways. You can't just block one and expect pain to not happen. 语法解析

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But so the body is like, this is a very important thing to have. And there's actually people that are, I would say, unfortunately, born without an ability to feel pain. And these you'd think that that'd be great. Oh, man, this is amazing. But these people actually don't live very long lives because they die. 语法解析

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of different complex issues that arise from them getting injured. And pain teaches your body something. It teaches you to avoid that painful thing in the future if you have the correct response to it. And so if you don't have that pain signal, you don't learn to avoid painful things or learn to avoid situations where you may inflict damage on your body. 语法解析

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And people would say like, well, can't they just learn that? Can people just tell them, hey, this is going to be a bad thing. And it's kind of similar to like, I think we've all, you know, had the experience of especially when we're kids, like of our parents telling us don't do that because of this. But we do it anyways. Why? Why? Because we have to figure it out for ourselves. But in the process of figuring out those things for yourselves, you learn about that. 语法解析

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And then you don't do it again in the future. You taught yourself your lesson. But if you don't have a pain response, you can't teach yourself that lesson. And so these people continue to get injured. They have complex, they have issues from those past injuries and they tend to die much sooner in life. So pain is a normal thing in how it informs us. It's one way that informs us about our environment so that we can change our behavior and avoid that in the future. 语法解析

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chronic pain is not a normal thing because there's really no, I guess, advantageous purpose for pain to be there chronically, to be always be there. 语法解析

03:53

So that is something that is a direct result, in my opinion, of the very changed way of our modern way of life from where we used to be living in nature. And even then, when we had civilizations, we were much more in touch with nature in different ways, and we've divorced ourselves from that. And so it's a direct result of us changing. 语法解析

04:14

Being out of those environments and that's leading to things where a pain signal and there's different ways this can happen. A pain signal can be chronically stimulated or chronically your body's getting chronically getting the signal to create a pain signal in your tissues. 语法解析

04:30

with no physical damage being there or physical damage having happened in the past or you know physical damage happening inside of us you know that I'm sure we'll talk about as far as like cellular health and things like that that are making the body making the brain perceive that there's a problem we need to create a pain signal and that's where chronic pain comes from so that has to do with our entire environment everything our body comes into contact with every single day 语法解析

04:57

Do we know at this point if humans are the only species to have chronic pain? I don't think we can say for sure, but I don't know. It would seem unlikely that other species have chronic pain from my perspective because the prefrontal cortex and the size of our prefrontal cortex is really what creates a pain signal, you know, or it's one thing that can perpetuate this pain signal even if there's no physical damage happening. 语法解析

05:28

And other species don't have the size prefrontal cortex that we have. I mean, our closest relatives are various apes and chimps and things like that. And they still don't have near the level of prefrontal cognition that we have that allows us to almost think our way into a pain response, depending on many different factors. But I think that a chronic pain 语法解析

05:52

Could definitely happen in other species if it's a more of a sensory pain signal So a chronic sensory stimulation, so basically let's say there's damage to a tissue. Maybe it's degeneration Maybe it's just especially like our pets Maybe they're being fed processed food diets or things like that and there's just this low body charge or low cellular charge and that could be sending a Chronic sensory pain signal which is we can see our pets be uncomfortable as they age, you know and 语法解析

06:19

Uh, so that's one way, but I don't think that a chronic pain of a cognitive nature, um, exists in other species. I have no proof of that, but it doesn't seem like that would be possible based on the mechanism at which that happens. Let's take an example here and get practical. So say somebody, we can use any injury that's been chronic in the body. We'll just say chronic knee pain. It's been there for a few years, somebody tuning in today, uh, 语法解析

06:44

And they want to begin to uncover what is at the root of that and then what they can do to start to unravel and get rid of it. Yeah. When someone has a pain that may not be like chronic, but it's sticking around, let's say, let's say it's been a few months and we just started having this pain like that would be chronics technically, but it wouldn't be like a lifelong chronic pain. 语法解析

07:06

But it's not going away. So we have to investigate why that is. And so I like to break this down for people. There's there's three different aspects of pain that are important to understand before you can start to address. You have to understand this before you can start to understand why you're having this pain. So you know what to do to fix it. So. 语法解析

07:26

If you get damaged tissue, like you cut your skin or maybe degeneration in your knee or something like that, that can, I mean, if you get physical damage, like you cut your skin, you're always going to get a pain signal. Degeneration, you may or may not get a pain signal. 语法解析

07:40

But something increases the likelihood that we'll get a pH change in the cells in that tissue. So pH change means it becomes more acidic. You could say that the cell loses its voltage. Something happens. And when that happens, it loses its pH. That chemical change signals your sensory nerves pick up that signal and carry it to the brain. 语法解析

08:02

And the brain says, OK, something's wrong. And it sends a pain signal back down to that area to say, hey, this area is damaged. Pay attention to it. 语法解析

08:11

And that's very important again for making you pay attention to it. So you change it. But that's where you're saying pain is in the brain comes from, because pain is not happening. Like the sensory of the tissue here is not signaling for pain. Your brain is signaling for pain to be there. So it has to get that signal first. So that's sensory pain. That's how it works. And there's different levels of neurons through which that are communicated to the spinal cord, up to the brain, to the sensory cortex, and then back down. 语法解析

08:39

So, that's sensory pain. Now, very tied to those sensory pain centers in the brain is the emotional centers of the brain, which is why when we feel pain, we tend to have an emotional response to it. And it's usually a negative emotional response to, you know, it's we cry or we get angry, like, ow, that hurt, you know, and that's 语法解析

09:01

This emotional tie to it is very important because that's what teaches you to avoid the pain in the future, avoid the thing that caused the pain in the future, that negative emotion. And this is also very evolutionarily preserved because even if the person that we love most in the world accidentally hurts us, you know, by stepping on our toe or something like that, as much as we know it was an accident and as much as we love this person, we're still kind of mad at them. 语法解析

09:26

And they were like, how could you be so clumsy to step on my toe or whatever? Because that emotional response is really what's teaching us to avoid the pain of the future. So that's the emotional connection to that. And then… 语法解析

09:39

Then there's the cognitive aspect of pain. And the cognitive aspect of what, especially for humans, is really what allows us to worry about things, this prefrontal cortex, this cognition, and to wonder about meaning of things. And so when we do that with pain, we're actually, when we overdo that with pain, I would say, we're actually wiring that emotional and cognitive centers together. 语法解析

10:06

So we're worrying so much about it, and our prefrontal cortex is allowing us to worry about the pain. So if it happens chronically, we continually worry about the pain, and that's wiring things together. The emotional centers, it can actually happen backwards. We can actually cognitively think our way into a pain response. So the emotional centers get activated, then the sensory centers get activated, and the brain sends a sensory signal back down to the body. And there may not be any 语法解析

10:30

physical trauma there anymore there may not be a chemical change the brain's getting the signal to do that so so yeah and so i should also say that the sensory pain signal is pretty much in all animals uh even even invertebrates like you know uh very small like flukes or bacteria or things like that they have this ability to sense panic ow and kind of get away from it but 语法解析

10:55

Only vertebrate animals have the emotional aspect of it. So anything with a spine, any animal with a spine is going to have the emotional reaction to it that teaches it to avoid it in the future. 语法解析

11:05

which is helpful for survival. But then I would say that chimps and some species with a little bit larger prefrontal cortexes probably have some ability to worry about it. But humans are very distinct and we have a large ability to worry about things and wonder about things. And so we are, this is kind of unique to us, this cognitive aspect of pain, I would say is unique to us. 语法解析

11:31

And so when someone's dealing with a knee issue, let's say their knee is chronically hurting, it could be as simple as just an overstimulated or chronically stimulated sensory pain signal. So something about the tissue, the cartilage in that knee or even the bone, but especially tendons and muscles and things around it, something about that is… 语法解析

11:52

is chronically decreasing the pH and the charge in that tissue and your brain is always getting a signal to create pain in that knee. And so that could be as simple as treating the muscles with electrolytes or something. It could be as simple as charging up the body, like putting your feet directly on the earth and gaining some negative charge. It could be as simple as red light or in sunlight or something like that. Anything you can use that will increase the charge of that tissue or 语法解析

12:21

creating better metabolic health, you know, not being insulin resistant. So eating a more whole foods diet and setting your circadian rhythm, creating more metabolic health in those ways could increase the charge of your cells and prevent that from happening, that pain signal from happening. Now, that would be more of like the knee pain started two months ago and it's not going away. That would be my guess. That would be where you would approach it. If you've had chronic knee pain for years, right? 语法解析

12:51

It could have started as that, but it's been around for so long that you have you've you've triggered you've wired the cognitive and emotional and sensory areas of the brain together because it's been there so long and you've worried about it so long. You've been dealing with it for so long that you've wired those things together. And if you do that sensory thing. 语法解析

13:12

stuff that increase the charge in that tissue you do some grounding you get infrared light you fix metabolic health that could significantly help but there still may be some brain rewiring that has to be done you could still get that pain because it's been there for so long and your brain wired that way so 语法解析

13:28

That's kind of how you would have to look at things and address things is how do I fix that based on how long it's been here? What's my current environment? How long am I gonna have to go and just have to start trying things? Do you try the sensory pain the chart charge up your body first if that works or improves it that was part of it If it doesn't help it all the way we may have to address some more cognitive things So yeah, all right. Let's stick with the foundation there and charging up the body. We have the food reading grounding and light 语法解析

13:58

Let's start with diet. Somebody that wants to assess where they're at and make better choices, how do they begin there? With food, I'd say that my general recommendations for diet are eat whole foods and eat as organic as possible. I'm partial to animal foods. I think that they are the biggest bang for your buck. They're what humans have been eating for however long you believe humans have been on Earth. You get their most bioavailable food. 语法解析

14:29

We are animals. We are made of animal. So when you eat those things, you make yourself from it. But yeah, so eating whole foods in general, though, is really going to help contribute to good metabolic health. So generally, like I don't think carbohydrates are evil. I don't think we should eat a ton of them because if we lived out in nature today, we 语法解析

14:50

We wouldn't have that many carbohydrates available for us. So it probably wasn't a huge part of humans' diets. It was just kind of here and there. But your best bet there is whole food carbohydrates and not processed carbohydrates, you know, grains, sugars, things like that. 语法解析

15:08

So that's going to be like for some people, that's like 70% of the battle because like you like I think that disruptor circadian rhythm is largely what's driving poor metabolic health and changes in mitochondria that allow them not to function properly and creating these more poor metabolic issues. And then I think that when you add a processed food diet or standard American diet to that, you're adding fuel to the flames, right? 语法解析

15:35

And so if you take away the fuel to the flames, you're going to feel a lot better. You're going to create a lot better metabolic health. But the but the embers of the fire may still be burning, you know, if you don't optimize the circadian rhythm. But so that could be, like I said, 70 percent of the thing you're taking away the fuel to the flames. And and so that's going to create better metabolic health. And when you create men about greater, better metabolic health in your mitochondria, you're 语法解析

15:58

They're gonna increase charge of those cells much better so, you know with the purpose of metabolism is to harvest the chemical bonds Or break down the chemical bonds of food to harvest electrons from that food So you can use those electrons to pass down the electron transport chain and that's used to make ATP to unfold proteins to structure water to and the structure water is what holds the charge and 语法解析

16:23

And so if you want to hold the charge in your cells and make it much less likely that you receive a pain signal from that tissue to the brain and back down, you want to build the structure of water. And the mitochondria make metabolic water. They make structured water. 语法解析

16:38

And so they also need proteins to attach themselves onto and hold the charge there. So that's what the ATP does. It unfolds the proteins. And this is all optimizing metabolism. And so from a food perspective, the best way to do that, I say, is sending your diet around animal foods, add variety with plant foods, and make sure they're whole food carbohydrates if you do carbohydrates or lots of them. And I would say eat in season. 语法解析

17:04

you eat plant foods in season and that would be where to start. - I wanna really drill down into this in season with the plants because you have a really deep nuanced view of this. And to me, there's two different aspects from reading your book. One being the imprint from the sunlight and two being deuterium. So bring both those aspects in and why local is so important. - Yeah. - Specifically for plants. - Yeah, so local and in season. 语法解析

17:34

really important for exactly those two things you mentioned. So first, 语法解析

17:39

you know, plants kind of have this mechanism of, because they're so tied to their environment, they can't move around like animals can. They imprint the light environment into their, I don't want to say tissues, but into their plant substance, whatever it's called, you know, but into their plant substance because they're so tied to that light environment. And so when you think about electrons, you know, what you're thinking about is when your body, when you, like when sun hits your body, you're making electrons from that sunlight. And so, you know, 语法解析

18:07

And so that sunlight, that electron has that kind of that light signal stored in that electron or kind of communicated in that electron. It's kind of a communication, a path of communication. So when plants are grown in a certain environment and then you eat those plants and then you harvest electrons from those plants. 语法解析

18:25

then the light environment from that plant, wherever it was grown, is now being kind of almost downloaded into your physiology, into your mitochondria. And if your mitochondria, your infradian rhythm, you know, the light environment of the mitochondria and how that changes to the local day-night environment of your external environment, where you are, is different, 语法解析

18:47

Then the light information that you just ate from food that was grown who knows where, you know, because we have food shipped all around the world, it can create confusion. It can create a little bit of mitochondria uncoupling. And those confused signals create just that, confusion in your body. So, yeah. 语法解析

19:07

You know, there's a lot of people who go on carnivore diets and there may be a lot of reasons why they see improvements in their health. But people say, oh, it's the plant toxins. They're eliminating plant toxins or maybe they're eating a very low deuterium diet, which we're going to get into next. But it could be that they've just eliminated this different programmed or downloaded light signal that they're getting. That could also be a contributor. So that's why it's important to eat local and in season or one reason why. 语法解析

19:37

So you get similar light signals from your external environment and from what you're eating inside. 语法解析

19:44

So the next thing is the deuterium. So our deuterium is a heavy hydrogen, they call it. It's a separate isotope of hydrogen. So everybody, well, not everybody knows, but like it's commonly known that electrons are passed down the electron transport chain. And then that generates hydrogen ions that go up into the inner mitochondrial membrane space and they come the other way. And they go back to complex five and that's what generates this. 语法解析

20:11

ATP production. And so the deuterium is an isotope of hydrogen that has an extra 语法解析

20:21

I'm making it wrong. It's either proton or neutron. I think it's neutron. And so- It's neutron. Yeah, neutron. So it comes back across and it tries to go into the ATPase complex five and it clogs it up because it's not hydrogen, it's heavy hydrogen. And then when it clogs it up, you stop making ATP. So it basically kind of breaks your mitochondria in a way or makes them less efficient. So that's an issue because then you're not making ATP, you're not unfolding proteins, you're not maintaining charge and structure of water. And so- 语法解析

20:50

deuterium is found you know it's going to be found everywhere i mean they there's there's some animal foods there's some uh there's there's much more in plant foods you could deuterium is even present in in water but there's kind of this hierarchy of of what has more deuterium than others and it's it's no mistake that the foods that have higher amounts of deuterium plant foods are 语法解析

21:14

things like fruit and even vegetables are typically available either in the season where there's more sunlight or if you live in a place with the sunlight sunlight year round you're going to have that food year round like in tropical areas you can have fruit year round and that's for a purpose because our body is able to deplete deuterium through sunlight exposure so if you're eating those foods and you're also getting ample sunlight your body's able to kind of get rid of it or also you 语法解析

21:42

Generally more toward like water from springs that's more toward the coast, which generally could be warmer depending on where you are on the earth and on the coastline is higher in deuterium rather than water from springs up in off glaciers or in mountain springs have much less deuterium. So it's all kind of environmentally appropriate. 语法解析

22:04

But if, again, we are eating foods out of season, we're having fruit shipped all over the world and in the middle of January in Virginia where I am, I'm eating oranges and whatever, then I am accumulating deuterium that could be breaking my mitochondria and I'm not able to deplete it as well because I'm not getting as much sunlight anymore. 语法解析

22:25

And so even if I was getting a ton of sun in the winter, it's not as high of an angle. I'm not getting as direct sunlight as I would be in the middle of the summer. So all that stuff's important. And I think it's playing a role in why we're so chronically ill, why we have this chronic metabolic dysfunction, because we're eating these foods from growing all over the world out of season and not local to our environments. So the ultimate example here, you gave an example in Virginia, 语法解析

22:54

But just to expand upon that is, say, a strawberry in the winter grown in California. It's going to get that imprint from the sun and then say it shipped up to me in Ontario. So I'll have the wrong imprint from the sun and it's going to have the deuterium. I'm not going to be getting the amount of sunlight I'd be getting in the summer here. So I'm going to be getting hit by both negatives. So the important highlight here is the fact that somebody in a different part of the world 语法解析

23:25

could be thriving on a certain food. Whereas somebody like us in the winter up north, that food could be causing all kinds of problems. So it's not as simple as this food's healthy, this food's not. This is the nuance that is so important to bring about because not a lot of people are talking about this. Yeah, it's incredibly important. And it also just makes sense logically. 语法解析

23:46

You know, like you were just saying, like when you say it like that, it just makes sense. Like we never would have had foods available that probably weren't within a few miles of when we woke up that day. You know, they weren't grown or raised there or just happening naturally, wildly. So, yeah, it makes sense. And then you and you think about, yeah, if we're eating foods that are just like like you're saying, like if this this people in the tropics are eating these 语法解析

24:14

you know, amazing foods and we attribute the benefits of them eating that amazing food to the different nutrients. Like it's high vitamin C or something like that. And like in a, like acerola cherry or something like that, that they're eating these, this high amount of vitamin C. We're like, oh, that's gotta be why it's beneficial. Maybe it's beneficial to them because they're in the right environment to eat that food. It doesn't mean it's going to be beneficial for everyone all over the world. It's incredibly tied to our local environments, light and everything else. So, 语法解析

24:43

I mean, and there's also just arguments too of just like it's not going to have near the nutrients it would have by the time it gets to you anyways. 语法解析

24:50

Uh, so it's not the same food as when you, you picked it fresh. Uh, so yeah, it's, but it's just logical. Like we have to kind of account for that. And like I said, when people go on these carnivore diets, I think that, you know, a lot of the benefits they attribute to maybe just better nutrient absorption because it's more bioavailable or maybe it's just avoidance of plant toxins. But I think the light has a lot to do with it as well. And deuterium has a lot to do with it as well. 语法解析

25:18

You brought up the piece of shipping these things across the world and losing nutrients. That, along with the emissions and the environmental impact, seem to be the two common arguments for eating local. 语法解析

25:34

And now you've just brought in two other important pieces in, again, getting into detail here that's not often talked about. Yeah, it's not just beneficial for the planet, right? It's beneficial for us, our local planet. I think of us as like a planet, right? So we have to take care of it. And what's usually what's best for the planet as a whole is best for your little local planet as well. 语法解析

25:58

generally. And that's one example. Like, you know, if we're eating more local, we're not shipping things around the world. That's better for greenhouse gas emissions. It's better for quality of food. You don't have to spray as many chemicals or preservatives or things on food when you're eating them local. So that's just all better for that kind of stuff. Economically, it's cheaper. But also it's just better health wise, like we talked about for us too. And that's generally how it goes when you think about that kind of stuff. 语法解析

26:25

Coming back to the imprint piece, sunlight causing an imprint on plants, the other aspect you bring up in the book with that that's detrimental is to the gut lining. 语法解析

26:36

Talk about that connection. Yeah. So, you know, when you when your bacteria in your gut are breaking down the food so that you can digest it, they're going to be absorbed to the gut lining. Light is being emitted. And so because, again, we're breaking it down to harvest the chemical energy, the chemical bonds that store the energy. So when they're getting broken down, they're releasing light. 语法解析

26:58

And the bacteria in the gut, they don't have like light receptors in their cells like we do, which means that we're absorbing that light and the bacteria is not. And so the gut lining is taking it. It's kind of like a projector screen like going on to the lining of the artery. And again, if the gut lining is kind of like an external environment inside our body or supposed to be, it's supposed to be kind of sealed off. So we're kind of like a donut if you think about it. 语法解析

27:26

And so if that external environment is getting a very different signal in the gut than our external environment, like our skin is getting from the sunlight and natural light that we're being exposed to out here, that's a very confusing signal. And the body doesn't know what's happening. And people have talked about a lot about how, oh, autoimmunity and all these diseases like that, they start in the gut. There's this gut-associated lymphatic tissue. 语法解析

27:52

And all these types of things. And it's like, well, potentially it could be because we're getting very confusing signals based on our external environment and the internal environment from the food is being that the signal of food is being projected onto our gut. Not to mention the fact that our external environments are filled with artificial light and things like that, which could just be even more confusing. So if we I would wonder how much of that plays a role and how it's just the body's doing exactly what it's supposed to do, given the signals that it's getting. 语法解析

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32:11

Are there any plants in the wintertime? I can think of things like kale, you might be able to grow that. Arguably not a healthy food anyways, for other reasons. But somebody up in Ontario, what do we do in the winter? Obviously the obvious is to go carnivore. But are there any plants you can think of? 语法解析

32:31

that would be helpful during that time. Yeah. Well, I don't know, because I don't know exactly what grows up there. And I don't even know exactly what plants would grow in my environment. I just go carnivore in the winter because that just makes the most sense. But I think that one thing is we have to put this in the context of what it was like for humans in the winter in Ontario, right? You probably weren't eating every day. 语法解析

32:56

You were hunting when you could and maybe coming across some plant foods you could nibble on, but it was pretty scarce. And generally that's what winter is really supposed to be about. We have lives now where we can't kind of hunker down and take it easy. 语法解析

33:11

But if you think about it, you know, trees die in winter, bears hibernate. It's just supposed to be this time of more rest and relaxation. We get more darkness hours, which means more melatonin, which means we're supposed to be getting a signal to sleep more and kind of rest. And we don't do that. So we likely wouldn't have needed that much food or as much food as we do in the summer. We're more active and everything. 语法解析

33:34

So that's probably not helpful for the modern day person that just has to do things. But I guess the closest thing you could get is just stick to more animal foods in winter and try and rest and sleep as much as you can, like more in the winter. That would be more appropriate, I would say. 语法解析

33:52

As we continue to build upon this puzzle, bringing in, we've already done diet, but sunlight and grounding, we can quickly see how somebody who wants to be preventative or has a chronic disease living down south in a tropical area is just so much easier and more advantageous on all those fronts. 语法解析

34:16

Yeah. I mean, it's like what everybody does in the winter. They go vacation at the beach or down in the tropics, you know, if they can. It's like the place that they choose to go because you're able to, again, get outside in sunlight, put your feet directly on the earth. You know, more whole plant foods are available there. 语法解析

34:37

So you can eat more whole plant foods there, whereas if you are stuck up here in the winter, really what's technically available to us is sustainable foods. So it's attractive, right? And we may, I mean, the first thing you do when you get to the beach, most people anyways, is take their shoes off. And maybe that's because the sand feels good. Maybe it's because they just know this is, and like inherently, this is better for me. This is a better environment. And we kind of seek it out. When it comes to deuterium in the body, 语法解析

35:08

How long does it stay in the body? And is there a way to detox or get it out of the body quicker? That I don't know. But I think that one potential way is mitophagy. So if you get a bunch of mitochondria that are clogged up with deuterium, one way that you can help purge that is mitophagy, killing off old mitochondria so your body makes new healthy ones. And that process is stimulated by 语法解析

35:36

A lot of things that we see in winter, actually. So maybe some fasting, maybe some low carb, lower carb diets like ketosis, maybe some cold exposure, different things like that. I think there's, again, no coincidence that those are things we have naturally been exposed to in winter that also induce this autophagy, mitophagy that happens with those things that, again, we're supposed to be doing in winter, resting and restoring and rejuvenating. 语法解析

36:03

Um, so yeah, more sleep, uh, more optimized sleep, higher melatonin levels because of more darkness signals. Uh, all those things are, are, would be useful for those types of things. And that's what's supposed to happen. Talk more about the fasting piece and how you incorporate that. Because I know for you, you like to eat within 30 minutes to an hour when you wake up with a protein bolus. Is that through the winter as well? 语法解析

36:29

And in the wintertime, are you doing any longer fasts? I have in the past. I did in this winter. And I typically don't do any more than three days. And I'm of the opinion that unless you're like really metabolically unhealthy, really overweight, that kind of thing, that longer fast may not be that beneficial for you. 语法解析

36:51

Or at least it has been official it is for those people that really need to heal. And I think that, you know, Jason Fung has done great work with that for those people. But generally, yeah, up to three days. And then on my daily routine, I'm definitely more intermittent fasting. But like you said, yes, I do think it's very important to eat in the earlier window of the day, especially in the winter. We want to generally eat when the sun is out. 语法解析

37:14

because we are designed to digest when cortisol is highest and that's when we're getting a bright light signal blue light signal from the Sun that's when the Cortisol is highest and we're designed to digest. So if you eat too close to bedtime when your body's trying to get into melatonin mode and Decrease the cortisol it can be disruptive to what's supposed to happen us when we sleep which is 语法解析

37:40

deep restorative healing sleep and not like you know cleaning house and instead of digesting and it can also create or keep cortisol around a little too much because your body's trying to digest and that can disrupt your sleep because if cortisol is too high and and then you're going to wake up in the middle of the night and things like that so that's just one thing that can contribute to cortisol being too high um but but yeah so it's really important and you know setting your circadian rhythm 语法解析

38:06

especially getting like UVA light in midday is really useful for pain because it stimulates, I think it's alpha MSH, which is going to increase the or decrease the sensitivity to pain. So basically it decreases the threshold for which your body responds to that chemical change in the tissue that's happening. That chemical change could be more and more and more and you're not responding to it. It's going to increase the threshold at which that would happen. So all that stuff, super important. 语法解析

38:34

Okay, let's connect what you just said to serotonin and then melatonin at night. Yeah, so ideally we're seeing sunlight throughout the day. Obviously that's not realistic for most people. So we want to go outside at least five minutes at a time, maybe four or five times a day and get sunlight. This is especially important at mid-morning. 语法解析

38:55

which you've which is when uva light first comes from the sun as it gets to the certain angle i believe it's 10 degrees above the horizon and you're going to get uva light and that signaling from light from uva tells your body to do lots of different things one of them is to make serotonin which is like the field hormone you know makes us feel better about life but how much serotonin you make when you get uva light in mid-morning 语法解析

39:23

it's going to dictate how much melatonin you can make later. 语法解析

39:27

when you block blue light after sunset. Ideally, we're blocking blue light after sunset. So the storage of melatonin, that's going to be converted to melatonin later. So how much serotonin you have will dictate how much you can convert to melatonin. So I tell people, your good night's sleep starts with UVA rise in mid-morning so that you can get the melatonin. And the melatonin, again, is going to help you signal to go to sleep, but then have deep healing sleep as well. 语法解析

39:53

which is when the repair happens, when the rejuvenation happens. So yeah. Obviously there's a lot of variables depending on where somebody lives time of year, but what would be the optimal dose of that UVA light to get the most serotonin to get the most melatonin later? 语法解析

40:11

Well, again, we're supposed to live outside, so it would be the entire window, right? That would be the optimal amount. But I would say at a bare minimum, five minutes, you know, at least give your body the signal that UVA has happened. And I mean, I don't always get out there exactly when UVA rises. Maybe I'll get out there an hour after it, but I try and get it with the window before UVB happens. 语法解析

40:34

you know, but I try and get that right as I write at UVA. And this is going to change throughout the year. It's not always going to be the same time. So, you know, there's apps you can get on your phone, like My Circadian that will help you track that stuff, you know, and when sunrise is, because that's going to change when UVA is, when UVB is. So you can try and time it to get out there and do that. For somebody relying on getting light through windows, talk about the difference in quality between that and being outside. 语法解析

41:01

there's a few one of them is that um the windows let in more blue light uh so that's gonna it's almost kind of like having a blue light bulb um not as bad but it's still leaning that direction so we have to think about this in the as processed light so it's it's the same as processed food when you when you take a whole food and you concentrate it down to one of its constituents 语法解析

41:28

then it's processed and we're getting a much higher amount of that without the context of the other nutrients in the food or the other compounds in the food. Same with light. If we have all these different colors and wavelengths of light, 语法解析

41:39

And we process it down to one or primarily one, which is like an LED bulb, very high in blue light and very low in the other colors. That's processed light. And so if you filter out like the windows, filter out light, some wavelengths of light from the sun, we're getting more processed light because we're getting higher amounts of, say, blue. Blue light's coming more through the windows. But also the windows, modern windows, the double pane windows, they're filtering out UVB. 语法解析

42:09

And so there's actually some studies that show that exposure to too much UVA without UVB, it causes the changes in skin cells that lead to skin cancer. And I talk about that study in the book. So it's really about… 语法解析

42:29

Like people talk about skin cancer all the time and it's just like, do you realize that the studies that show that UVB light causes skin cancer were done on genetically bred mouse that were hairless? And so, A, they don't have their hair to protect their skin. That's not normal. And B, they use just UVB light lamps, which UVB never comes on its own. It always comes balanced with all the other colors and wavelengths of light. 语法解析

42:55

So that's a totally unnatural experiment. And that's what we're using to say that UVB causes skin cancer. As a matter of fact, you look at studies, and these are just associational studies, but the associational studies show that the people who get more natural sunlight have less skin cancer than the people who don't. 语法解析

43:13

And the people who work outdoors get less skin cancer than people who work indoors under artificial light. So huge discrepancies there and kind of myths about skin cancer. But yeah, one of them is modern windows. They're filtering out wavelengths of light that would make it more balanced. And then people say to me, well, that would mean that an infrared sauna is processed light and a red light panel is processed light. And you're absolutely right. It's processed light. 语法解析

43:41

The reason that these therapies seem so beneficial or they are beneficial is because we're so deficient in red and infrared light. 语法解析

43:47

So UVB and blue light, you know, there's less of that throughout the day. Like the amount of UVB is zero at sunrise and blue light spikes, but blue light is only highest at solar noon. So the amount of blue light varies throughout the day, but the red and infrared light is steady all day long. 40 to 50% of the sun's rays are always red and infrared. And if you work indoors and live indoors, you're getting none of that. 语法解析

44:13

and it's supposed to be a constant stimulus so we use these red light panels we use an infrared sauna it seems very therapeutic and beneficial however if we use them too much they would become damaging right if we sat in front of a red light all day long it would be like sitting in front of a processed blue light all day long i think that it would have a negative effect and if you look at the studies on um red light lasers like low level light therapy 语法解析

44:38

There's a threshold, like it's a bell curve. It goes up like this, it's beneficial, beneficial, and then it's not beneficial anymore if you use it too much. And that's exactly what we would see, but it's just hard to overuse those devices 'cause we're so deficient in red and infrared light. - There are different variables again, like where you're living, time of year, time of day. 语法解析

44:59

But talk about exposing ourselves to light in a healthy way. And you've touched on this. I want to make sure we went there. People that are fearing getting outside and getting sunlight because of things like skin cancer or skin damage. But talk about building a solar callus. Yeah. And doing this in a healthy way where we're going to get the benefits from that light. 语法解析

45:21

Most people, you know, they wait till it's warm enough and it's the right season. And even then they don't go out at sunrise. They don't go out at UVA light and they say wait till it's midday and they haven't been out all season. It's the first warm day of the year. They go outside, boom, you burn. Of course you're going to burn, right? You haven't given your body any signals to prepare for that more intense light. So as you, I mean, 语法解析

45:43

the day-night cycle and exposing your body to sunrise and then mid-morning sun and then mid-day sun and doing that day after day is helpful, but then doing that throughout the seasons is also helpful. Because you're telling your body, hey, prepare for the more intense sun of summer. Oh, now it's going away. We're going back into winter. There's supposed to be more darkness. We're healing and repairing. Oh, now prepare for that more intense sun of summer again. If you don't give your body those signals, 语法解析

46:08

It's going to be like freaking out when you go out into midday sun in the middle of the summer and you burn, right? So I am super pale, or I should be. I am Irish heritage, and if I don't get sunlight, I'm very, very pale. But I never wear sunscreen. I go out, and I set my circadian rhythm. I'm very in touch with the day-night cycle. I've been doing this for three, four years now. 语法解析

46:33

I don't burn I can be out there for a very long time and even if I do get a little red it doesn't peel it doesn't like it goes right into tan and I can't say I'm like the most tan person I just have genetically less melanin than some people but but I don't burn and so that's how you have to kind of set this solar callus and as you're as you're doing that 语法解析

46:56

And it does take consistency. You have to be able to do it day in and day out for it to happen. But as you're doing that, be smart. Don't burn if you know you're going to burn. Work up to that solar callus. Build yourself up to it. And then 语法解析

47:11

you know, sunscreens are pretty toxic and they also block UV light, which makes for imbalance process light coming from the sun now because we're blocking one wavelength and letting others in. And so that's not ideal. So we would want to cover up with clothes like light clothing or hats or things like that. Just be smart about it. But 语法解析

47:30

This is more of an opinion, just stating that from the get-go. But I don't think getting sunburn is what's causing skin cancer. Like, I just don't, like, that doesn't make sense. It'd be like, yes, it causes skin damage, but is that going to result in skin cancer? I don't think so. We don't say that cutting our skin and causing damage to our skin that way is going to cause skin cancer. 语法解析

47:54

It doesn't make sense to me that it would. So I think the signal of cancer is happening because of imbalanced light signals, because of our artificial light environments and modern windows and using sunscreens, we're creating these imbalanced light signals when it comes to UV versus blue and all this kind of stuff. That's the real problem. You quickly mentioned melanin. This is something I want to get into with you. 语法解析

48:20

Talk about what that is and how this can be another strategy to make energy in the body. Yeah. Melanin is, well, I mean, it's most, most famously known for what gives our skin our pigment. So, you know, people of Caucasian descent have much less melanin, uh, people of African American descent, um, or, um, and, you know, either the Pacific Islanders, all of them, they have much more melanin in their, in their skin. That's what gives them a darker skin. Um, 语法解析

48:48

Um, but I can increase the amount of melanin that my skin produces by getting more sun. Um, but melanin, people think that's just what it does. It gives your skin pigment, uh, but it actually does a lot more. And if you look at nature, melanin is concentrated everywhere. Um, it's in all of these animals, it's on the bark of trees, it's all over the place because melanin has these very awesome properties in which it can take light energy and 语法解析

49:14

and turn it to mass, right? So we're taking light has no mass and you take light, you turn it to mass, you turn it to electrons. And melanin can do this. But melanin, it's not just light that melanin can do this with. It can do it with so many different forms of energy. It can do it with vibration. It can do it with electromagnetic energy, lots of different forms of energy. But it can harvest that energy or use that energy to dissociate water in the body. 语法解析

49:40

And, you know, there's arguments that we're like 99% water. If you look at us by volume, right, 99% water molecules. And so we have melanin and it's not just in the skin, it's concentrated everywhere in the body. We have it in the back of the eye, we have it in the nervous system, we have it, it's everywhere. And so when light hits the body, melanin takes that light, uses it to dissociate water. What does that mean? It means it breaks water up temporarily. 语法解析

50:04

So it takes two water molecules and it makes two molecular hydrogens. It makes oxygen. And then in the process of doing that, it releases four electrons. 语法解析

50:18

And so then the electrons are released and the water can become water again. But that's how light hitting your body, one way that light hitting your body creates electrons. It just makes sense naturally. We harvest energy directly from the sun. 语法解析

50:36

And that's one way we do it. And so then those electrons can be picked up by the fascia system of the body and literally transferred anywhere they need to be, all the way down to the nucleus of the DNA if need be. But they can go right into the cells, right into the mitochondria, and they can be used. So it's a very important role of melanin to be able to do that. Similar to melanin, DHA. 语法解析

51:05

and this is something we can more control by our diet, that gets incorporated in cell membranes and we can make energy when sunlight interacts with that. 语法解析

51:17

Bring that piece in. Yeah, so DHA is an omega-3 fatty acid. We all know people take their fish oil supplements and things like that, which I don't necessarily recommend, but we get it from animal foods. We get this omega-3 fatty acids from animal foods. And DHA has what's called a pi electron cloud. 语法解析

51:39

around it so it has this concentration of electrons around it and when light hits that electron cloud it excites it and it literally creates uh dc electricity from that this is what einstein described as the photoelectric effect so again photo electric or light hitting something making electricity and that's what dha does for us which is why it's concentrated in high amounts of skin it's also why 语法解析

52:04

You know, when you look at red blood cells, cell membranes, they have lots of DHA. And that's why when we get out in the sun, we turn a little bit red and pink because the red, the blood is rising to the surface of our skin to soak up more sunlight and use that to create electrons. And so that's exactly what's happening. And when we… 语法解析

52:24

when we use plant fats instead of animal fats, we start to build our tissues and red blood cells with phytosterol, then that's a problem. And there's issues that there's studies that show that building our, and I talk about this in my heart book, that when you build red blood cells, the cell membranes of red blood cells with plant sterols, phytosterol, then they become more rigid. They can't, they're not flexible, which can damage things when they get into tight capillaries and things like that. 语法解析

52:53

But it also interferes with the ability of your body to harvest electrons from sunlight or turn sunlight to electrons because the red blood cells come to the surface and they're just full of plant sterols and they can't have that photoelectric effect from the pi electron cloud. So animal foods are one reason why animal foods are super important and why historically humans have eaten a lot of seafood because it's very high in DHA. So, yeah. Let's talk more about phytosterols. So, 语法解析

53:23

This will pivot off of something we talked about earlier, being down south, say somebody's down there and they're in the, we'll just say summer, taking in more plants. But now we have this phytosterol piece and taking in these fats that are going to get incorporated in red blood cells. 语法解析

53:47

We've omitted the other arguments we brought up before, but now we have the phytosterol piece. So what I'm getting at, I'm trying to parse this one piece out. Somebody who is, say, in Florida in the summer eating plants, incorporating these phytosterols, are they still better off eating animal foods because of this DHA piece? I would say so, yes, which is why 语法解析

54:10

I mean, even if you look at like Weston Price's travels and things like that and how he went around the world, they were all prioritized these animal foods. They all prioritized getting butter from Macau if they lived in the Swiss Alps or if they were on the coast, they were eating tons of fish and fermented fish and things like that. They were prioritizing animal foods for a reason. And Weston Price said, 语法解析

54:34

You know, he conjectured that it was the vitamin K. That was one thing that they were really getting from the animal foods, and that is one thing they were getting. But it's also because they were optimizing their ability to harvest electrons by sunlight. And maybe they understood that. Maybe they didn't. I don't know. But it was critically important. But that doesn't mean that— 语法解析

54:55

You can eat plant foods. It just means that you need to make sure you're getting enough animal foods so that you can harvest energy in different ways. Because if you don't, like there are scientists out there that say that we should get only a third of our energy from food, from actual metabolism, you know, or metabolism from food. Because I consider metabolism harvesting electrons from anywhere and using it to create ATP and structured water. 语法解析

55:20

the body and so if you if you interfere with that then your ability to harvest as electrons you're making yourself really dependent on just food and that's a problem because then we're overworking our our metabolism as far as like houses and Krebs cycle instead of just getting these free electrons from the environment and 语法解析

55:42

You know, it's requiring a lot more work to get those rather than just changing it from light energy to or directly from the earth grounding and bringing those electrons directly in. So that's a reason we're supposed to live outside. And it's a reason that we live more inside. We are starting to see these diseases, especially these metabolic diseases that we're seeing, these breakdowns of mitochondrial function. So, yeah. 语法解析

56:09

Given what you just shared, a third of our electrons roughly coming from food. The other two big ones are grounding and sunlight. Theoretically, do you feel like somebody could go without food if they're living in the tropics, getting that sun and grounding and just getting their electrons from those other two pieces? I don't know. I don't know if anybody's looked at that or studied that. I mean, we definitely have people who claim to be breatharians. 语法解析

56:34

Which is what I'm getting at. Yeah. So it'd be interesting. I've never met one, never talked to one, so I don't know. But I guess that scientist that I'm talking about, he's saying that we're supposed to get a third of electrons from food. So we still need some from food, I guess he's saying. But I think more importantly— 语法解析

56:55

Because there's people that talk about macros as far as energy, proteins, fats, carbs, things like that. I think it's much more important to focus on nutrient content. Is the food providing you with adequate nutrients? Does it have the nutrients in there that you need? And are they bioavailable to you, which is a very important piece? Can our digestion actually absorb them the way it's supposed to? And then, you know, the energy piece is, 语法解析

57:18

will, especially if we're in the right environments, more sunlight, more grounding, then the energy piece is less important as far as, because your body will take what it needs from that food, the energy it needs, and the rest of it will get from its environment if you're providing that to it. 语法解析

57:33

So, that's tough in the modern world. I have to spend 28, 30 hours a week in a clinic that's indoors under artificial light. But when I'm not in that clinic, I am outside as much as possible. And even then, I have a window open right now just trying to get natural light in. It's not being in direct sunlight, but it's trying to get natural light. So, just doing all those types of things as much as you can is really important. So, 语法解析

58:00

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59:33

Which brings me to the benefits of sunlight on the skin versus the eyes. Well, for a circadian rhythm perspective, the eyes are more important, definitely. But sunlight signaling on the skin is also, it plays a role in circadian rhythm as well. But then the benefits of sunlight on the skin is all the electron harvesting effects that you're getting. Plus, like, there's things, like, if you… 语法解析

59:55

UV light in general, actually, on the skin has been shown to produce heparin sulfate in the skin, which is a potent anticoagulant. So we talk about these coagulation diseases, atherosclerosis, heart attacks, strokes, people getting DBTs and just random clotting. UV light is very important. I mean, when you go and you have a clotting disorder or clotting issue in the hospital, they administer heparin. That's what they're trying to do. They're trying to break up 语法解析

01:00:24

this clotting material and so that's just i mean there's probably a thousand others benefits of getting natural sunlight but from a circadian perspective the eyes are more important and so that's why blue blocking glasses work so well because you're protecting the eyes as long as you're looking straight forward from like not looking out the side of the glasses you know um but you're looking straight forward because that's where the light comes in through the pupil's 语法解析

01:00:48

But yeah, but there are benefits to getting sunlight in your eyes as well. You know, getting red and infrared light through your eyes is definitely helpful for the arteries in the eyes, health of the arteries in the eyes. 语法解析

01:01:05

I don't know the specifics, but I just remember reading a post from an optometrist talking about UV and the benefits of getting UV in your eyes, and she was listing out all the benefits there. So natural light, full-spectrum light, very, very helpful for the eyes too. But from a circadian perspective, the eyes are more important than the skin, even though they both play a role. I see these people on social media sometimes talking about getting light where the sun don't shine, genitals, butt, 语法解析

01:01:34

How do you feel about that? Have you looked into any research in actual benefits there? I haven't, but given the effects of sunlight and signaling on hormones, I would say that there's probably benefit. However, I don't know if it's 语法解析

01:01:54

I don't want to say necessary. It's definitely not realistic for the average person, I would say. And whether or not that's going to move the needle in society, that's what I focus on. Right. I want to, what's going to be the most impactful? What are the most people going to do? You know, people out there who want to optimize their health, biohackers, whatever, if they want to do that, fine. I haven't looked at any specific research to say, yes, it's doing something. No, it's not. But, 语法解析

01:02:18

Again, I'm more focused on the things that people can actually do and are actually going to do and move the needle a bit more in society so we can move more toward this healthy world. All right, let's come back to DHA. And you quickly mentioned you wouldn't necessarily recommend supplementing with that. Talk about the details there. And then how much DHA, given what you explained before, is ideal? I don't necessarily have a set amount, but I think that if you are prioritizing protein in your diet, 语法解析

01:02:49

preferably like good, healthy animal based or like animal protein that's grass fed and naturally raised as much as you can get that, then the better it's going to be. I think that studies show that like the nutrient content of grass fed versus conventionally raised, like industrial raised is not that different, but there is a slight difference in omega-3 content of the grass fed meat that it's much higher and 语法解析

01:03:16

Uh, so if you're prioritizing protein, you're getting enough protein a day and that's animal fat protein, then you're getting enough, uh, DHA, I would say. Now, as far as supplement goes, um, people want to supplement a lot. There's all this literature that shows that it's anti-inflammatory. It's good for heart health and all these things. Um, however, I think that the bigger issue, so you want like your omega six to omega three ratio to be one to one, uh, at the worst three to one. 语法解析

01:03:45

And people today are like 30 to 1 because of all the seed oils and the omega-6s we find in those seed oils or just other, I guess, plant fats or plant – 语法解析

01:03:58

Yeah, foods heavy with plant fats in them, even like a grain, so to speak. But we're getting way too many omega-6s. And so people are like, oh man, we've got to make the ratio one-to-one. So we've got to get the omega-3s up. You've got to take your omega-3s. Like, no, actually, we should just decrease the omega-6s and bring that ratio down. And then the problem is, 语法解析

01:04:17

I found with taking omega-3 supplements is that they're unsaturated fatty acids by nature. Omega-3, like the third carbon on the chain is unsaturated. And so… 语法解析

01:04:30

they're prone to oxidation when they're unsaturated whereas saturated fats that are all the carbons are saturated with hydrogens they're much more stable they're not going to get kinks in them and get damaged so when you take that omega-3 out of the fish it's very hard to keep that stable it's very prone to oxidation from light from heat from all kinds of stuff and so if you want to avoid those 语法解析

01:04:52

then I would not take omega-3s. And like I said, it's very hard to make them stable. Some people would claim that if you ferment them, then they're more stable, and that may be, but I would just rather eat it in a whole food because it's still packaged in the tissue, and I'm going to consume it in the tissue. How do you feel about vitamin D? We now know that potentially a third of our energy can come from the sun, 语法解析

01:05:19

Vitamin D in our world is one of the most common supplements people are talking about. It's obviously challenging for people like us that are more north in the wintertime. So talk about all those different aspects and how you look at that supplement. I don't think in many cases we should never treat blood work rather than a person. So if someone gets their blood work done and it says low vitamin D, I have no idea if what we chose to be low vitamin D is actually low vitamin D. 语法解析

01:05:50

And I can admit that, you know, even being a practitioner or studying this stuff, I don't know what low vitamin D is. Well, I do know it's when you get low vitamin D symptoms. Do you have rickets? You probably have low vitamin D, you know, like that's an indication. So in the absence of symptoms of low vitamin D, I'm not going to treat the vitamin D. Plus, the other aspect of this is that I would be very cautious about taking hormone replacement therapy. 语法解析

01:06:20

And vitamin D is a hormone. It's kind of mislabeled as a vitamin, but it's a hormone. And if you're taking high amounts of a hormone, then you're telling your body not to make that hormone. And what does that signal to your body? Well, the process of making those hormones is almost just as important as the hormone itself because there's intermediate products that are made in the process of making that hormone that are used by the body for other things that are important. And if you just give your body the hormone, it stops making it. 语法解析

01:06:48

So yes, you take vitamin D. It has a very anti-inflammatory effect, but it doesn't really, for most people or lots of people, I would say it doesn't really raise your vitamin D levels because you just, it's acting like a steroid. It's a steroid hormone. And so you're taking a steroid and you're having anti-inflammatory effects, but it's not really making your body make more of it. It's telling it not to make more of it actually. The other aspect of this is people will say, well, yeah, but in winter we don't get enough vitamin D. It's like, of course we don't. 语法解析

01:07:16

Nature is not giving us the signal to make vitamin D. So why would we want to make more of it? You know, nature is not giving us UVB light. And and so this this is mostly because. 语法解析

01:07:29

Vitamin D and melatonin have been shown to do the same things in the body, many of the same things. I won't say the exact same thing, but many of the same things. Because in the summer, we're supposed to have, depending on where you live, you're supposed to have more sunlight hours, more UVB hours, more time outside. You should be outside more, making more vitamin D. In the winter, we're supposed to have more darkness hours, which darkness or lack of blue light signals for melatonin production, so they're supposed to switch. 语法解析

01:07:58

Right. The problem in winter is not that we have low vitamin D. Nature's not giving us a signal to do that. It's we have low melatonin because artificial light is completely shutting down melatonin production. We're supposed to make that for longer periods because there's more dark hours. That's what's supposed to be happening. 语法解析

01:08:14

So if you are worried about your vitamin D in the winter, don't. Start making more melatonin. Block blue light. Be conscious of your light environment after sunset. And it's the same with melatonin. People say, well, can I just take melatonin? It's like, no. When you take it, you tell your body not to make it. And again, the process of making it is just as important as the hormone itself. 语法解析

01:08:33

It's the same with cholesterol. Like, you know, the process of making cholesterol is very important because there's like 20 or more steps to making cholesterol. And those intermediate molecules are used for various things, which is why when you inhibit the step at step two or four or whatever it is, HMG-CoA to mammonate, like when you inhibit that, then all the other byproducts or the intermediate steps don't get made. And those things are used for many other things, which is why you have all these different side effects with statin drugs. 语法解析

01:09:00

So we have to be careful by interfering with the body's natural processes because it's all used for something. And so that's kind of my spiel on vitamin D. What about other supplements? Are there any that you take? No, I'm not huge on many supplements. I take electrolytes. I think that's super important. 语法解析

01:09:18

And right now I'm taking natokinase. Just, I don't really have necessarily any reason to. But, I mean, the reason I started taking that, because I took seropeptase, you know, if people listen to our first podcast, they hear about my story. I took that initially when I reversed the plaque in my leg. And then I, between the last podcast and this one, I actually went and I got a CT angiogram of my coronary arteries there. 语法解析

01:09:46

And I got that analyzed by Clearly and they, my arteries are fairly clean. They have a very small amount of plaque in their RCA, the right coronary artery, which they detected was there when I had the heart attack. 语法解析

01:09:58

When they went into the angiogram there, they said it was there, so it hasn't progressed. It's generally about the same amount. But I'm like, hey, let's see if I can get rid of that. So I started taking natto kinase again. Otherwise, my arteries are completely clean. LAD is completely clean, everything. And then I'm also taking some phosphatidylcholine right now because someone approached me and wanted me to try the product, and they sent me some. So I'm like, yeah, I'll try it out. There's supposed to be some benefits to the endothelial health, so just trying that out. 语法解析

01:10:28

Given everything we've shared early on in the conversation about having a diet specific to your location, time of year, how does your diet look in the winter? To me, it sounds like it would be carnivore, carnivore-ish. And then how does that change in the summer? Yeah. So for me, it's pretty carnivore in the winter. And then I'll really only start eating 语法解析

01:10:57

uh, some plant foods in the farmer's market, which was for me is in May. Uh, so, and, and even then the vegetables aren't like abundant at that time yet. Uh, so, and I'll eat some low carb vegetables and I stay low carb because it's just better for type one diabetes. That's just easier for me to maintain that. But I wouldn't have any problem with people eating local fruits or higher carb vegetables. Um, you know, as long as they're whole foods and, and, 语法解析

01:11:25

You know, diets can be different for everybody, but that's just kind of what mine looks like. And then in the fall, it'll still, you know, plant foods I eat will slowly start to dwindle. And yeah, we'll go back to carnivore. But my diet's always really centered around animal foods, you know, as the priority and prioritizing that protein. 语法解析

01:11:45

But, you know, people have to find the diet that works for them. I can give you all these principles and ideas about what I think would be best historically and just scientifically or whatever. But you got to find a diet that works for you that you can do and stick to. And, you know, one of my favorite, it was just a friend of mine. I don't know if he made this up or if he got it from somewhere else, but it was like the diet that heals you may not be the diet that's best for you the rest of your life. So have the diet. 语法解析

01:12:14

wisdom to change if, uh, if you find out the diet is not working for you anymore. Um, and, uh, and, you know, try different things. Uh, but generally always stick to whole foods. Stop convincing yourself that any processed food or processed product, even like health food products, you know, that are generally, you know, more healthy ingredients. If they're processed foods, they're not going to be the same, um, as, as the whole foods. So, yeah. 语法解析

01:12:41

How do you look at ketosis for yourself and for others? I don't really measure ketones in myself anymore. I used to, and I got a pretty good idea of what I'm going to be, you know, so I just stopped measuring. Strips are expensive, you know. But yeah, like… 语法解析

01:12:58

I don't think that true ketosis is really necessary, or I should say a true ketogenic diet is really necessary for everybody. I think that people with certain conditions like epilepsy or things like that, it's like a miracle for them. And they should definitely do that because it has such a profound effect. But I don't think that the goal should be to be in ketosis for the most people. The goal should be metabolic health. 语法解析

01:13:27

And to me, metabolic health is the ability from a substrate like 语法解析

01:13:33

kind of food metabolism standpoint, the goal of metabolic health should be to be able to have some carbohydrates, a decent amount of carbohydrates, and burn through those carbohydrates and immediately return to making ketones and burning fatty acids again. If you can't do that, you're not metabolically healthy. So a way to test that is, again, I say that eating earlier in the day is better. So stop eating four to five hours before bedtime. And if you stop eating then, 语法解析

01:14:01

You should, even if you have like, I don't know, 100, 200 grams of carbohydrates, let's say in a meal at that point, and you stopped eating them. If you woke up in the morning and you tested your ketones and there was any ketones present, then your body burned through those carbohydrates and then it started making ketones again. And that's metabolic health. So yeah, if you started eating so many carbohydrates that you broke that mechanism and you're waking up and there's no ketones present, then you're 语法解析

01:14:26

you've reached some state of poor metabolic health and you need to fix that. But yeah, but I think that that also is dictated by circadian rhythm. It's not just the food you eat, but that's a good indication that you're metabolically healthy. It's the ability to switch back and forth quite easily. Because we all know about the keto flu, right? You go on this low carb diet and you feel terrible. Why? Because your body has forgotten how to make ketones and burn fatty acids as efficiently as it could. 语法解析

01:14:53

Therefore, when you restrict its food source, which is glucose, it's like, what are you doing? And you feel bad because it's having to upregulate these mechanisms. And so, yeah, we just don't want to get into that state and have to go through that keto flu or that adaptation process. We want to maintain that metabolic flexibility. Last time we talked, you had gone from a period where you didn't really prioritize hydration to 语法解析

01:15:22

to including more hydration throughout your routine talk about how you're looking at hydration and the different drinks you're having on a regular basis i only drink water um and i and i have electrolytes with maybe uh four measuring cups of water a day i'll have like a concentrated amount of electrolytes in that um but uh hydration i see as 语法解析

01:15:46

Well, cellular hydration is very different than I'd say vascular or lymphatic hydration or like tubes in the body hydration. So I think that vascular hydration comes from the water that we drink because you're absorbing that water through the stomach, through the intestines, directly into the bloodstream. So it's going right in there. 语法解析

01:16:07

And that's what's going to create the hydration there. So my mistake at that time when I had the heart attack was that I was not drinking enough water. I was drinking maybe a cup of bone broth a day. And so I think that that's very important now when it comes to hydrating cells, the mitochondria are what hydrate cells. And so if we have poor metabolic health, which at that time I could have had some poor metabolic health, my circadian rhythm was very off at that point. 语法解析

01:16:33

Looking back, diet-wise, things were fine. I'd always been eating this low-carb diet animal foods, but like I said, I don't think that that is what drives good metabolic health completely. The embryos could still be burning, so I think there could have been some metabolic dysfunction then. But yeah, everybody talks about mitochondria makes ATP. That's its job. 语法解析

01:16:54

I don't think that's its job. I mean, that's one thing that it does, but it also creates heat, infrared light, creates reactive oxygen species, which are signaling molecules, and it creates metabolic water. 语法解析

01:17:06

And we learn about that in cellular physiology as some byproduct. Oh, yeah, it just makes water as a byproduct. Well, what if that's the most important thing that it makes? Because that water is what hydrates your cells and it's what becomes the structured water gel that surrounds all the cytoskeleton of the cell. So that's what hydration is like. It's metabolic health and it's drinking enough water. So I would say… 语法解析

01:17:33

I don't know, like eight measuring cups of water a day at least. And it needs to have minerals with it. Very, very important. So it needs to be free of toxins, full of minerals. And then I like to energize my water in some way to give it a little bit more coherence so that the water molecules are interacting with each other a little bit better so that when it gets into the body, it will structure itself better. 语法解析

01:17:56

doing that, which again makes sense. That's the way nature, that's what nature does to water. It's full of minerals. It's always moving it. It's always in sunlight on, in contact with the earth. That's where water is. When it comes to minerals, is there a certain brand you're using? I use Redmond Relight, but B-minerals is pretty good. And I say Kingtown minerals. Some people say Quinton minerals. I don't know. But yeah, there's, there's some, there's some good ones out there, but I use Redmond Relight. 语法解析

01:18:26

When you're talking about your water, you give a little spin there. And last time we talked about structuring a water, which isn't the same as structured water that I want to get more into here. But is there a certain device you use when you're at home to vortex your water? 语法解析

01:18:43

I just use the analimma wand and I just, you know, stir that around. It's creating a vortex when you vortex water, which is what happens in water in nature. You know, it's flowing over things, going past rocks, it's vortexing, it's creating this turbulence. That's what the heart is. We talked about that last time. But yeah, so that's what I do. But you'd also put it in the sun or… 语法解析

01:19:06

Somehow put it in contact with the earth without creating dirty water. I know people that have like these little disks that mimic the electromagnetic field of the earth and they put their water on that. There's ways to energize it. But again, you're just putting it more back in contact with what it would be in nature. 语法解析

01:19:23

Because when it's running through tubes and being recycled through municipal water plants all the time, it's just dead. You know, it's got all these toxins in it. It's not it's being moved through laminar tubes rather than being swished around. It's not in sunlight. So it's just kind of dead water. So you have to do something to it to make it more live water. Let's talk more about structured water. You talked about the ATP piece and how that's not doing what most people are saying it's doing. Bring that in. 语法解析

01:19:53

And then bring the structured water piece in. And then we're going to tie this into the sunlight and then get into the grounding. Yeah. Like I said, you know, people, we all learn in school that we're supposed to, we're harvesting this energy from the chemical bonds of food and we extract electrons from that. 语法解析

01:20:08

And then we use those electrons to pass down this electron transport chain and during that process we get hydrogen ions are produced they go up to the inner mitochondria membrane space We get We get water produced we get heat infrared light We get reactive oxygen species and we also get ATP we get all these different things produced as these these electrons are passed down these proteins and 语法解析

01:20:35

ATP holds a, it's a storage form of energy. So it holds this chemical energy in there. And so that storage form of energy, people think, oh, that must be the energy currency of the cell. It's what supplies all the energy for the cell. However, Gilbert Ling is a scientist that worked a lot with water. His work is actually what led to the development of MRI machines and 语法解析

01:21:03

and how you can rearrange the water molecules and get a picture like it can using a magnetic field. And so, yeah, but anyways, he also showed in his work that the amount of ATP that could be produced by mitochondria in a cell, in a given cell, there's no way to produce enough ATP to power everything that needs to be powered in the cell. He said that it couldn't even produce enough to – 语法解析

01:21:30

to power the sodium potassium pump, if that exists, which I'm not sure that it does. But he did mathematically and experimentally prove this, that there's no way you can make enough ATP to do that. So ATP, it turns out one thing that it does do is it does hold an energy bond. That energy bond is used to unfold proteins in the cell. Because you get a protein, it's like, 语法解析

01:21:58

If it's all folded up on itself, it's kind of like a tinfoil that's balled up into a ball, right? And so there's very little surface area when it's balled up like that. If you break it open and you unfold it, you get a much more surface area of tinfoil. So that's what proteins are like. They're all folded up and the ATP comes in there and unfolds the proteins and makes them these big things with lots of surface area. Because what do you need to form structured water? You need a hydrophilic surface. And so there are studies that show that 语法解析

01:22:28

water in the cell is no more than 0.5 nanometers away from any biological surface, or it should be if the cell is healthy. And so that's what ATP is doing. It's unfolding proteins. It's unfolding the cytoskeleton of the cell or the microtrabecular lattice or whatever you want to call it in the cell creating surface area so that the metabolic water that's created by the mitochondria is 语法解析

01:22:51

can go onto there and have a surface area to form structured water because the structured water is what holds the body's charge because it's electronegatively charged. And Dr. Pollack has shown that many times in many studies that he's published and many other authors aside from him have as well. And so that's what holds the structure 语法解析

01:23:11

voltage of the cell. We all know that, well, anybody who studied cellular physiology knows that the cell holds this voltage, this negative charge, so to speak, this pH of like 7.4 or something like that, slightly alkaline. Slightly alkaline means more negative charge, not acidic or positive. 语法解析

01:23:32

And that's what does it. But we have to have this process happening. So ATP is still critically important because without it, you don't get unfolded proteins. If you don't get unfolded proteins, you get less structured water, you get less cell voltage and less cell voltage has been shown to be pathology. Cells that are diseased have lower cell voltage than they should. And that's the role of ATP is to do that as a primary role. And the three primary roles are 语法解析

01:24:02

ways, I should say, of making ATP, the food, the sunlight, and the grounding. Any other big ones that contribute? Those are the big ones that… 语法解析

01:24:15

help produce the ATP. But again, like the ATP is not the energy storage form. The energy storage form is structured water and ATP plays a role in that. No, that's what I'm getting at, to open up the proteins. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, and like, and all we're trying to do, like you said, is harvest that energy in the form of electrons from our environment. We can do that for way more than just food. So those things, like you mentioned, are the primary way we get electrons, but we also want to remove the things that interfere with them. 语法解析

01:24:43

interfere with the body's ability to harvest and hold on to those electrons. So things that have been shown, so things that have directly been shown to break down structured water in experiments published by Dr. Gerald Pollack are wireless signals. So specifically a wireless router is what they used to 语法解析

01:25:06

in his study and it broke down structured water I think 10 to 15 percent or interfere with the ability to form and then the other one they tested with glyphosate which is the herbicide roundup and so while we don't know for sure there's probably other toxins and things that also do this but if you think about it 语法解析

01:25:26

since structured water is so negatively charged and it's holding on like it's negatively charged because the oxygen is a bigger molecule and it's holding a negative charge and there's not two hydrogens to balance it out anymore. There's only one. So that's what gives it the negative charge, but it's also negatively charged because it's a storage form of electrons, you know, because the water molecules are now kind of linked together, kind of like an ice, but without the extra hydrogen electrons can travel through them, right? So electrons are traveling through it and that's what gives it this negative charge. 语法解析

01:25:54

That's why it's a storage form of it. And so if you interfere with that, you bring down the body's negative charge. But since it has this negative charge, we all have heard that oxidative stress or inflammation or things like that, those things steal electrons from the body. And the place that it would steal electrons would be structured water because that's where the electrons are stored. And so that makes sense that when you look at what glyphosate is, 语法解析

01:26:24

and how it acts like one thing, it's one thing that can cause inflammation, oxidative stress, this kind of stuff, it's just stealing that charge. So anything we know that acts like oxidative stress, like heavy metals in the body could act like that, or when we get poor metabolic health and we're producing too many reactive oxygen species, like all that stuff could contribute to this destruction of structure of water and then low voltage in a cell. 语法解析

01:26:50

And that's just well-known science. The oxidative stress breaks down or steals electrons from tissues, and it steals it from structured water. So then, yeah, wireless router and toxins. So we want to remove the things that steal the charge. We need the raw material, which is water. 语法解析

01:27:11

which we make from mitochondria or we're drinking for our bloodstream and lymphatic system and stuff. We need to expose ourselves to the things that build structured water, infrared light mainly, but sunlight is the original form, and grounding, and then healthy metabolism. So we're extracting electrons from that. And then we remove the things that break it down. And if you look at that recipe, 语法解析

01:27:37

It's like and look at the modern way of life. It's it's a bad recipe, right? That's exactly what we're doing where we create poor metabolic health We're not drinking enough water. We're drinking these dehydrating things a bunch of caffeine and sodas and things like that We're not living outside with feet contact with the earth in sunlight and we're surrounded by artificial blue light and EMFs and exposed to so many toxins and it's just like no wonder our bodies are struggling and 语法解析

01:28:03

And so when you talk about pain, that's going to significantly increase the likelihood that that cell voltage drops. And what happens when cell voltage drops, it's one thing that your body says, hey, what's wrong with this tissue? I'm going to send a pain signal there. So that threshold of what's going to cause pain is drastically increased. Let's talk about the next step of this story. So you have your mitochondria making ATP. 语法解析

01:28:32

unfolding proteins, structured water is forming inside the cell, how does that energy then get used? The cellular energy? Like the structured water energy? We used to think of it as ATP, but now that we're saying the energy is actually the structured water, how is that used by the body? The next step. Yeah, so this goes down to like phase transitions. Well, first of all, structured water is a battery. So it's when structured water forms, 语法解析

01:29:01

There's an area of negative charge, and then because of the way it forms, it creates an area of positive charge next to it. And that positive next to a negative creates an energy gradient that stores energy. It basically, just like a battery, stores energy. There's a positive and negative into a battery. We're concentrating energy in that area. 语法解析

01:29:19

And so this is what structured water does. And so when you form structured water on this protein in the cell, you've created a battery right there. And in Dr. Pollack's lab, they've shown that you can plug, like they make a structured water zone and they put an electrode into the structured water and into the positive area next to it in the bulk water and you can power a light bulb. So you're creating energy, you're creating electricity. And so it's stored right there. So 语法解析

01:29:47

When you think about this, it's not like all the cellular proteins are unfolded and everywhere in the cell is full of structured water. The majority of it is. 语法解析

01:29:58

but not all of it. And so there's still these little pockets of things where there's not structured water, or there's still these little pathways. And we talked about in our last episode how this does the work of moving fluid. This energy gradient does the work of moving fluid, and it's the same thing in the cell. That's what kind of keeps fluid moving through cellular pathways. And this happens even in embryos where there's no heart function yet. That's how fluid starts moving initially in embryos. 语法解析

01:30:26

So that's what's creating this fluid movement. And then we also get what are called phase transitions. And so Dr. Pollack wrote a very good book, well, very well cited book called Cells, Gels and the Engines of Life. And this book basically makes an argument that physiology happens through phase transitions. What I mean by phase transition is like we talk about structured water. It's actually the fourth phase of water. 语法解析

01:30:51

And so when we talk about a phase transition, it's going from a liquid phase to a structured phase and vice versa. And when that happens, 语法解析

01:30:59

cellular physiology happens, you know, so we start to see action potentials. So we learned in school that an action potential is when this depolarization of a cell happens. So depolarization means it loses its charge temporarily. How does it lose its charge? A phase transition. It loses structured water temporarily and then it comes back, right? And that phase transition, there's many things that can signal a phase transition, right? 语法解析

01:31:22

It could be a change in pH. It could be a temperature change. It could be anything, all these different things. And it signals for a phase transition. And that tells the cell to do physiology. And the cell that happens here, then it happens to the cell next to it. And it's like this, you know, it just happens super fast. And that's what this depolarization is and then repolarization of a cell is. That's what we see. So that's how physiology happens. And that's how the body uses that energy to hold the charge and then create phase changes in response to external stimuli. 语法解析

01:31:51

Got it. That was what I was getting at. So phase transition is when this structured water is actually used to do something in the body. And that's when it goes from being structured water to 语法解析

01:32:04

to a liquid again, and then it goes back. And all that happens, I'm assuming, super quick. Yeah, like faster than you could probably think. Like it's so fast. But that's what, like everybody who studies physiology in school, we study like nerve conduction and action potentials. That's what we're studying. We're saying, oh, yeah. 语法解析

01:32:22

This depolarization happens in the cell and then it repolarizes and it happens really quick. And that's what sends a signal down like a nerve or whatever, you know, this action potential. But in reality, it's just, it's, it's like a continuous phase transition that's happening and it's happening instantaneously. Like, like probably happened a thousand times in the last sentence I just said, you know, it's, it's how physiology happens. 语法解析

01:32:44

And like, again, Dr. Pollack in his book, he showed how facial distances are responsible for muscle contraction, nerve signals, and various other things, parts of physiology. That's just the evidence we have so far. All right, let's move into the third big input, grounding. For yourself in the wintertime, how are you grounding on a regular basis? I know part of your strategy is these grounding pad in the house, but are you getting outside and grounding as well? 语法解析

01:33:15

Talk about the full strategy there. Yeah. So I get outside, um, um, pretty often. I'd probably say 30 minutes to an hour a day of outside grounding in the winter. It's probably more than that in the summer. Cause I'm just outside more. Um, but yeah, then I'm using the indoor grounding sheets and grounding mats and things. And so, um, 语法解析

01:33:34

But it's important for people to understand that it doesn't have to be directly on the earth. You could be on a patio stone that's directly on the earth. So if it's like I would say four inches or less patio stone or concrete is also conductive. Asphalt's not very conductive because it's got rubber in it. 语法解析

01:33:53

The bark of a tree is not very conductive, but the leaves are. Mulch is not conductive because it's dead wood. So there's lots of different, but there's other options. Sand is conductive, dirt, grass. But yeah, I mean, the other thing is like, 语法解析

01:34:08

You could you could like plug or like stick a nail like a big nail from lowest into the ground and wrap copper wire around it and bring that in through the window of your house and just close the window on it and hold the wire and you're grounded, you know, or I even have I've had clients that do that and they're sitting at the computer working and they wrap the copper wire around their leg. 语法解析

01:34:30

You know, and I'm just like, you got to remember this there, though, when you want to get up. But but yeah, there's there's ways to do that if you're if you're wanting to get more grounding time. So obviously, time's a factor. What about contact with the ground? 语法解析

01:34:46

So if you're exposing more of your body and say laying in the grass in the summer versus just having your feet there, does that make a difference? Yeah. I mean, you're going to absorb more, the more like surface area you have in contact with the ground, the more, um, electrons are going to conduct, but it starts happening instantaneously. So as soon as your feet conduct or touch the earth, you're going to start conducting. Uh, so any, any amount is beneficial, uh, 语法解析

01:35:11

even if it's just five seconds, like you soaked up some electrons, right? But yeah, the more surface area, the better. What about PEMF, especially people like us that are more north? It's more difficult, especially in the winter to get outside. Like a PEMF mat? To be honest, it's not something I've played with, but I've seen them online where there's these machines and then there's a mat connected to it. You can sit on it. And the way I understand it, you might know better. It's just like grounding on steroids, right? 语法解析

01:35:43

I would say that it's more so like it's mimicking grounding in a certain way. No, I don't I don't know. It depends on the PMF map, but the PMF is pulse electromagnetic frequency. So to me, they're mimicking the electromagnetic field of the earth, the Schumann resonance, which you're in contact with more when you're grounded, you're outside directly on the earth. 语法解析

01:36:03

but we're all in electromagnetic field of the earth right now you know we're we're sitting in it um and the other frequencies electro other electromagnetic frequencies the wireless signals and um electromagnetic signals from um like electricity coming through the walls and stuff like that that's affecting our ability to to be just like wholly in contact with the human resonance so pmf from my understanding is more like 语法解析

01:36:31

um those electromagnetic frequencies that are more harmonized with the earth's so they're giving you more of a stimulus of that i i don't know i've never heard of pmf mat being a grounding mat as well but they may be they may have like ones where you can plug right into the wall and uh into the grounding prong and in the in the wall but it's more for me electromagnetic energy than than being conductive uh electrons from the earth 语法解析

01:36:57

When it comes to the structured water piece, creation of energy, does movement fit into this at all? We know that there's the big three, but how does that incorporate if it does? Yeah, so you can definitely create electrical current by movement. So the fascia in your body is, you know, I kind of thought of it as like, 语法解析

01:37:22

A Spider-Man suit, you know, that kind of just holds you on from the outside, but it's actually goes everywhere. It's penetrates all the way down into the cell, into the nucleus of the cell and. 语法解析

01:37:34

And it's what holds everything together. It's kind of like the structural framework for the body. And fascia is very hydrated with structured water. It's a hydrophilic surface, and so water will structure itself on it. And they've actually shown this. I forget the guy's name. He's French, but he has this video where he inserts a camera under live tissue, and he starts moving the tissue, and you can see the fascia changing. 语法解析

01:37:59

um like changing its connections to other fascia it's like it's it's to me it's like the stairs in harry potter where they change like this you know and it's like doing that with the fascia as the person's moving but you can also see the wetness and the hydration of the fascia so um so it's it's it has the structured water on it and we have the literature that shows that there's structured water but when you have hydrated fascia and you move it it creates this piezoelectric effect 语法解析

01:38:24

Of tissue, which is also very well Established in the literature that you can create this electrical current. I think that the fashion has to be well charged for that to happen but when you move your body, you're basically freeing electrons from fashion structured water to be Pushed elsewhere, you know, so you're basically able to use it so if you charge up from the earth and you get sunlight and then you move 语法解析

01:38:50

then you're moving those electrons to places they need to go, like into the cells where they can be used to make ATP and hydrate and things like that. So movement's a very big part of this. And then you get bound up fascia. You get scar tissue, which is very tightly packed fascia together. Structured water can't form on it because it's so tightly packed together. And so breaking up that scar tissue is very helpful because if it's there, it interferes with this podioelectric ability to be sent from fascia somewhere else, from somewhere to somewhere else. 语法解析

01:39:19

Got it. So exercise itself isn't creating energy, but it's the fashion or body that's almost like a storage of that energy through the structured water. When we move, we can release it. 语法解析

01:39:35

and use it as needed? - Right, yeah. So remember like laws of the universe say energy is not created or destroyed. So we can't create energy from movement, but we can, I say, mobilize energy as long as our body's charged enough. So we have to be in the right environments and the more we move in the right environments. So I like to work out outside. People see me on Instagram, I'm using my bike in the sun. I'm trying to, my Peloton or whatever. 语法解析

01:40:03

Unfortunately, I can't lift weights in the sun. I have to go into a gym. I'm only in there for like 20 minutes and I can't justify buying my own weight set for 40 minutes a week because I want to go twice a week. But anyways, yeah, you want to, as much as you can, move your body in that natural environment because you're charging up and then when the movement is just mobilizing energy, getting to that piezoelectric effect, moving it where it needs to go. Okay, so when it comes to fascia, we've talked about active movement. 语法解析

01:40:31

What about passive things like foam rolling, massage, where some other inputs coming in acting upon the fascia? 语法解析

01:40:41

Talk about that aspect. Yeah, same effect as far as a piezoelectric effect, just more effective for breaking up the scar tissue. You know, gentle stretching, which is like our movement, just like in yoga and things like that, that's going to have that piezoelectric energy. You're going to create that. When you mobilize it, it goes to cells and creates this anti-inflammatory effect. But when we're talking about piezoelectricity, 语法解析

01:41:05

breaking up fibrotic scar tissue and things like that. Yes, foam rolling and that kind of stuff is a more, it creates the piezoelectric effect, but it's more direct and breaking up. It's more of like therapeutic in that nature. But the people, the thing that people miss from that is that's critical in a lot of places, especially if we have trigger points, bound up scar tissue, past traumas, injuries, things like that. It's important to get that tissue worked out, but then the hydration of it afterwards is also very important. 语法解析

01:41:33

because if you don't hydrate those scar tissue, those collagen fibroids, then they're just gonna go right back to scar tissue, or they're more likely to go right back to scar tissue. So hydration means A, being hydrated enough, having enough water, but also infrared light. 语法解析

01:41:49

and grounding and things like that, things that increase the amount of structured water that can form on there. So I would say if you went and got did some foam rolling or got a massage or whatever, it'd be really great to get sunlight after that, or at the very least do an infrared sauna or red light panel, do something that can help hydrate the tissue afterwards. When it comes to fascia and we could use different words to reference adhesions, scar tissue changes in the anatomy, um, 语法解析

01:42:19

How long can it take to work those out using these passive modalities? Just depends on how deep they are, like and how big the scar tissue is, you know, because it could be quite uncomfortable to try and like if it's a big nodule or whatever, it could be quite uncomfortable to try and get it all gone in one session. I've actually got some pretty gnarly cupping bruises on my on my back and my shoulder right now just from breaking up scar tissue or getting that work done. 语法解析

01:42:45

But it can also depend on how that trauma is stored and how willing the body is to release it because trauma can get stored in tissues, mainly from the fact that water can hold memory. 语法解析

01:43:01

And we're largely water. So, so yeah, how willing the person is to break that up. And so like you can get when you get bound up scar tissue in places, it can create stagnant blood as well. Because when you when when fascia is bound up, it can interfere with that, the blood flow, etc. 语法解析

01:43:20

like not necessarily in arteries and stuff, but like in capillaries and in the interstitial fluid where the blood is, you know, coming in and out where there's kind of like this swamp, you can create this stagnant area. And so when you break that up, it kind of releases it and gets blood moving through there again, we get new blood in there. So it just depends on how deep it is. But I don't know, I don't have, I don't do much soft tissue work in my clinic. So 语法解析

01:43:45

You probably ask someone who's who does soft tissue work more frequently, like how long does it take for the average person? Like how many sessions? Like what's it going to take? But yeah, and sometimes it's more helpful to have someone else do it than you yourself, because in the process of trying to like foam roll or use a massage ball or something, you're like contracting muscles and get into these weird positions trying to stabilize yourself. And you're just not as relaxed and not as willing to let go than when you're just laying there having someone else try and do it. 语法解析

01:44:14

As a chiropractor, though, having your hands on people, can you actually feel sometimes when there is this bound up fascia or is it more theoretical and microscopic? 语法解析

01:44:28

No, I can definitely feel like it's specifically in joint motion. If there's a lot of bound up scar tissue around a joint or in the tissue surrounding a joint, yes, that joint is not going to move like it's supposed to. And I can feel the difference. You know, at first I remember in school, the teachers would tell me, you're supposed to feel this. And I'm like, what? I don't want you to feel. But now I feel having felt so many spines and so many joints and how they move. It's easy. I can feel when a joint is knocked up and not moving like it's supposed to. 语法解析

01:44:56

compared to the joint below it or the joint above it or something like that uh and so you know it may take a little work to do that and it may take some work to get it to stay the way it's moving if even i create motion in as a chiropractor or or they do something that creates motion in it it's going to take some training to get it to stay that way and to retrain the tissue and hydrate the tissue after the the breaking up of it has has happened so 语法解析

01:45:22

Yeah. Uh, but, uh, but all of that is, is it's a process just like anything else, just like changing your diet, you know, like it's going to take time, you know, for you to, to do something that's sustainable and make it a habit for somebody that this is all new to, and they want to begin to get momentum. What are the biggest things they can take on today to start to work towards all this we're talking about? Yeah. One step at a time. Um, also I think that 语法解析

01:45:53

It can be overwhelming to think about all these different things we have to do. 语法解析

01:45:57

which is like a large part of what I do in my health consulting is I'm helping people figure out, okay, what's the priority right now? What's the most important thing right now for you to do? Here's the short-term stuff that you need to do. And then here's the long-term stuff that you need to work on over time, rather than trying to do it all at once and overwhelming yourself and then saying, I don't have time for this or whatever. And that can be hard. You know, just like when we started off, we talked about like someone with knee pain and 语法解析

01:46:24

What do you do? How do you do it? Well, first you have to determine what's causing it. Is it been there? Is it just a sensory thing? Is it more cognitive aspect? It's been there a long time. We've got to figure that out before we're going to be successful about treating it. And so that can be helpful. That's the service I try and provide for people is analyze everything that's going on in their life. It's what my form that people fill out is designed to do so I can be like, okay, this is an issue. This is the biggest issue. Let's focus on this first. Start with that and go from there. 语法解析

01:46:54

All right, Dr. Hussey, really enjoyed round two. We're going to link up your books, your social media, your website, everything in the show notes. Thank you. Yeah, thank you. Now that you're finished with the episode, head on over to ultimatehealthpodcast.com for detailed show notes, including links to everything we discussed. Thanks for listening and have a great day. 语法解析

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