Jack Kruse Ray Peat

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核心观点:

演讲者(似乎是Jack Kruse,虽然未明确说明,但从提及Ray Peat和其理论风格推断)认为,光(特别是紫外光和生物光子)在生命的起源和进化中扮演了远超传统生物化学所理解的关键角色,它直接影响基因表达、能量转换和复杂性的构建。 他批评了传统生物化学和进化论对光的忽略,并认为这种忽略导致了对生命本质的误解。

主要内容中文复述:

  1. POMC (Proopiomelanocortin) 与紫外光:

    * POMC 是一种在哺乳动物中非常重要的基因。

    * 紫外光是翻译(表达)POMC 基因的关键刺激因素。

    * 这种紫外光不仅来自太阳,对于早期动物而言,还来自它们自身产生的超弱生物光子 (ultra weak biophotons),其光谱范围通常在200-400纳米(紫外光谱)。

  2. 线粒体内膜与能量转换的光学特性:

    * 哺乳动物的瘦素-黑皮质素通路 (leptin-melanocortin pathway) 和血红蛋白与线粒体内膜的故事都与光有关。

    * 线粒体内膜上发生 NAD 到氧气的电子传递,涉及-400到+400毫伏的电位差。

    * 细胞色素I (Cytochrome I) 的吸收光谱在340纳米(紫外区),发射光谱在蓝光区(黄素范围)。这解释了为什么第二个细胞色素是蓝光吸收体。

    * 细胞色素I 还会产生线粒体中最强的超氧化物脉冲。自由基是未配对电子,这意味着它们都有吸收和发射光谱。

  3. 对传统生物化学的批评与Ray Peat的交流:

    * 演讲者认为生物化学领域尚未充分理解吸收和发射光谱的重要性。

    * 他曾与著名的生物化学家 Ray Peat 交流过这些观点,但Ray Peat 当时似乎并未完全接受。

    * 演讲者的核心论点是:任何具有吸收和发射光谱的物质,都意味着光必然是其故事的一部分。

  4. Albert Szent-Györgyi 的远见与 Robert O. Becker 的证明:

    * 演讲者追溯到 Albert Szent-Györgyi(因克雷布斯循环研究的“错误”而获得诺贝尔奖,这本身就是一种讽刺的说法,暗示主流观点可能存在偏差)在1941年布达佩斯会议上的观点:DNA 唯一编码的是蛋白质,而蛋白质具有类似半导体的电子结构。

    * 当时听众席上的 Robert O. Becker 在不到二十年的时间里证明了Szent-Györgyi 的观点是正确的(暗示生物体内的电磁现象和半导体特性)。

  5. 哺乳动物从缺氧到有氧的进化与紫外光的选择:

    * 当演讲者向Ray Peat解释这些时,他指出Ray Peat的理解基于传统的“盒子车厢”式(指模块化、线性)的生化途径,而忽略了量子生物学层面。

    * 哺乳动物从缺氧环境进化到依赖氧气的TCA循环(三羧酸循环)大师。

    * 在线粒体层面,这意味着它们在量子生物学层面(而非达尔文的自然选择层面)制造并选择了那些发射光谱在紫外范围内的化学物质

  6. 能量、复杂性与 E=mc²:

    * 如果这种“开关”(指对紫外光的利用)发生,生物体就获得了构建更大、更复杂结构的能量潜力。

    * 这与 E=mc² 的原理类似:能量和质量是等同的。拥有更多能量就能构建更多“质量”(即复杂性)。

    * 引用 Ilya Prigogine 的理论(1977年诺贝尔奖):细胞是一个量子单元,设计用来将光泵入其中。通过光电转换的电阻 (photoelectrical resistance) 来构建复杂性。细胞内的电阻减慢光速,细胞内的物质捕获这些能量,从而构建复杂性。

    * 这与婴儿在母体内发育的原理是分形相似的。

  7. 对主流生物化学和进化生物学的再次批评:

    * 演讲者认为,当人们用这种“光”的视角重新审视生物化学(如Lehninger生物化学教材)时,会发现传统教材完全忽略了吸收和发射光谱。

    * 他认为自己之所以让进化生物学家和生物化学家感到“头痛”,是因为他不断指出这些被遗忘的关键特征。

    * 主流科学界虽然知道GOE(大氧化事件)、寒武纪大爆发以及达尔文理论与寒武纪大爆发的不匹配之处,但由于“中心法则”的束缚,以及对科研经费(NIH、DARPA)的依赖,没有人愿意质疑。

  8. 播客的目的:

    * 演讲者强调,这个播客的目的不是讨论中心化科学如何偏离轨道,而是向人们讲述生命的故事(暗示一个更接近真相、包含光的重要性的版本)。

总结来说,演讲者试图构建一个基于量子生物学和光物理学的生命叙事,挑战了传统生物化学和进化论中以化学反应和基因为核心的解释框架。他认为,紫外光和生物光子是驱动生命进化、基因表达和能量转换的核心要素,而对这些光学现象的忽略导致了对生命本质的片面理解。他暗示,这种颠覆性的观点因不符合主流科学范式和科研资助体系而受到压制。

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or palm seed. What is palm seed?

Proopopio melano cortin. It's a it's a

gene in mammals that that is really what

we specialize in. And it turns out what

translates palm seed from our DNA? UV

lights the stimulus. Where does that

light come from? Most people think that

it's from uh the sun. I'm going to tell

you in the original animals that first

come out, it's not only from the sun,

but it's also from the ultra weak

biopotons that they make, which tends to

be in the ultra weak um spectrum, which

is 200 to 400. How do we know that?

Because everything that is about a

mammal, which is the leptin melanoordin

pathway, and then this hemoglobin story

with the inner mitochondrial membrane

becomes sculpted. That's where you have

NAD to oxygen. What's the the the change

there? -400 to positive400 volts. But

what's the other thing? What's the

emission and absorption spectra of

cytochrome 1? Turns out it absorbs at

340 and it emits in the blue range, in

the flavven range. That's why the second

cytochrome is a blue absorber. It also

turns out that it makes the most super

oxide pulse in all of the mitochondria,

which what are free radicals? Remember,

they're unpaired electrons. What does

that mean? It means they all have

absorption emission spectra. So the

other problem in biochemistry we haven't

got to but I did sit down with a famous

biochemist probably 10 or 15 years ago

that you probably heard of Ray Pete and

I tried to tell him this story and his

eyes were glazed over when he told me

all the things he said. I said Ray I

said do you understand that anything

that has an absorption and emission

spectrum means that light has to be part

of the story? And I told him how old the

story went. I said do you know who came

up with this idea originally? said it

was um guy who also won a Nobel Prize

for being wrong about the Kreb cycle

which was Albert St. Georgie and he said

the most interesting thing at a meeting

in 1941 in Budapest. He said the only

thing that DNA codes for is proteins and

he goes it's really funny when you look

at a protein they have an electronic

structure that mimics a semiconductor.

Do you know who is sitting in the

audience that day? Robert Obecker

literally within less than two decades

he proves that Albert St. Georgie is

correct. Okay. and he def beyond a

shadow of a doubt. So when I gave the

story to Ray, I said, “Ray, all the

things that you believe are based on

this paradigm of you learning about all

these box cars, but as you said, Nick,

in the beginning of this podcast, you're

like, Jack, it's not clear to me how the

two domains of life came together, which

is now you're asking me the next

question, which is beautiful because I

know you're understanding what I'm

saying now. So let's talk about what

happened to these mammals.” Turn out

these mammals went from being hypoxic to

TCA masters with oxygen. And what did

that mean at the mitochondrial level?

That means they made chemicals and

selected for chemicals at a quantum

biologic level, not at Darwin's level

that had emission spectras that were all

in the UV range. And now if the switch

happens, if the switch happens, you now

have the energetic potential to build

more and bigger complexity. You got it?

And that's exactly what the story of E=

MC² is. You know, I don't have to teach

you about that because you know energy

and mass and Einstein's equation are the

same. So the thing is if you're able to

have more energy in the system, which is

what Pigene's theorem is, he won the

Nobel Prize in 77. Basically, a a cell

is a quantum uh cell that's designed to

pump light into it. And what do we do

through electrical resistance? Photo

electrical resistance. That's how you

build the complexity. So, what are you

doing? The electrical resistance of

things in a cell slows the light down.

Those things harvest the power and then

we build the complexity from that. It's

no different than the story I told you

about what happens to a baby when it's

inside its mother. Okay? It's exact same

story. It's another fractal of the

story. And when you see it for yourself,

you start to look at biochemistry. You

start opening up your Lener biochemistry

and go, “Jesus Christ, I never learned

anything about absorption and emission

spectras.” And this is the reason why,

Nick, I'm such a pain in the ass for

guys like you that are in evolutionary

biology and biochemistry because I keep

pointing out these key features that

you're forgetting. And you guys know a

lot of the stuff I know. You know about

the GOE. You know about the Camrian

explosion. you know about Darwin and how

the story doesn't marry up to the

Cambridge explosion, but because it's

central dogma, nobody wants to question

it. Why? Because if you're a PhD, you'll

never get any money from the NIH or from

DARPA or for anybody else. And I

understand that. But remember, we're

doing this podcast not to talk about how

centralized science went off the rails.

We're actually trying to teach people

the story of life.

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或棕榈种子。什么是棕榈种子?

促黑素皮质素。它是哺乳动物中的一个基因,是我们研究的重点。事实证明,我们的DNA如何翻译出棕榈种子?紫外线是刺激源。那光从哪里来?大多数人认为它来自太阳。我要告诉你,在最初出现的动物中,光不仅来自太阳,还来自它们自身产生的超弱生物光子,这些光子通常在200到400纳米的超弱光谱范围内。我们怎么知道这一点?因为关于哺乳动物的一切,比如瘦素-促黑素通路,以及线粒体内膜中的血红蛋白故事,都被塑造出来。那就是NAD到氧气的过程。那里发生了什么变化?从-400伏到+400伏的电压变化。但还有什么?细胞色素1的发射和吸收光谱是什么?结果发现它在340纳米处吸收光,并在蓝色范围内发射光,也就是类黄素范围。这就是为什么第二个细胞色素是蓝色吸收者。事实证明,它在所有线粒体中产生最多的超氧化物脉冲,什么是自由基?记住,它们是未配对的电子。这意味着什么?意味着它们都有吸收和发射光谱。因此,我们在生物化学中尚未解决的另一个问题是,大概在10或15年前,我和一位你可能听说过的著名生物化学家雷·皮特(Ray Peat)坐下来讨论,我试图向他讲述这个故事,他听后眼神呆滞。我说,雷,你明白吗?任何具有吸收和发射光谱的东西都意味着光必须是故事的一部分。我还告诉他这个故事的起源。我说,你知道最初提出这个想法的人是谁吗?是阿尔伯特·圣·乔治(Albert Szent-Györgyi),他因克雷布斯循环的错误理论而获得诺贝尔奖。他在1941年布达佩斯的一次会议上说了最有趣的事情。他说,DNA唯一编码的是蛋白质,他还说,当你观察蛋白质时,它们的电子结构就像半导体一样。你知道那天听众席上坐着谁吗?罗伯特·奥贝克(Robert Becker),在不到二十年的时间里,他证明了阿尔伯特·圣·乔治是正确的,毫无疑问。当我把这个故事告诉雷时,我说,雷,你相信的所有东西都基于你学习的这些“车厢”范式,但正如尼克你在这期播客开始时说的,你说,杰克,我不清楚生命两大领域是如何结合在一起的,现在你问了我下一个问题,这太棒了,因为我知道你现在理解了我说的内容。所以让我们来谈谈这些哺乳动物发生了什么。结果这些哺乳动物从低氧状态转变为以氧气为中心的TCA大师。这在线粒体层面意味着什么?意味着它们在量子生物学层面制造和选择了化学物质,而不是在达尔文的层面,这些化学物质的发射光谱都在紫外线范围内。现在如果这个开关被打开,你就有了构建更大更复杂结构的能量潜力。你明白了吗?这就是E=MC²的故事。你知道,我不用教你这个,因为你知道能量、质量和爱因斯坦的方程是一回事。所以,如果系统中有更多能量,这就是皮琴(Prigogine)的理论,他在1977年获得诺贝尔奖。基本上,一个细胞是一个量子细胞,设计用来将光泵入其中。我们通过电阻力做什么?光电阻力。这就是你如何构建复杂性的。所以,你在做什么?细胞中东西的电阻力减慢了光速,这些东西收集能量,然后我们从中构建复杂性。这和我告诉你婴儿在母亲体内发生的事情的故事没什么不同。好吗?完全一样的故事。这是故事的另一个分形。当你自己看到时,你开始审视生物化学。你打开你的莱宁格(Lehninger)生物化学书,然后说:“天哪,我从没学过关于吸收和发射光谱的任何东西。”这就是为什么,尼克,我对像你这样研究进化生物学和生物化学的人来说是个麻烦,因为我一直指出你们忘记的关键特征。你们知道很多我知道的东西。你们知道大氧化事件(GOE)。你们知道寒武纪大爆发。你们知道达尔文,以及这个故事如何与寒武纪大爆发不符,但因为这是中心教条,没人想质疑它。为什么?因为如果你是博士,你永远不会从NIH、DARPA或其他人那里拿到钱。我理解这一点。但记住,我们做这个播客不是为了讨论集中式科学如何偏离轨道。我们实际上是想教人们生命的故事。

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