Wim Hof
对 Wim Hof（维姆·霍夫）的观点和做法进行评价，分析其积极方面、潜在风险、科学依据以及争议点。
Wim Hof 方法的核心组成：
- 寒冷暴露 (Cold Exposure): 包括冷水澡、冰浴、在寒冷环境中穿着单薄等。
- 呼吸技巧 (Breathing Techniques): 一种特定的深呼吸和屏息练习。
- 意念/承诺 (Mindset/Commitment): 强调意志力、专注和相信自身能力的重要性。
积极方面与潜在益处：
- 增强抗压能力和心理韧性： 主动、有控制地暴露于寒冷这种强烈的生理压力源下，确实可以训练身体的应激反应系统（如肾上腺轴），并提高个体在面对其他生活压力（心理、情绪）时的应对能力和心理韧性。这与“激发效应”(Hormesis) 的概念一致。
- 改善情绪和提升活力：
* 内源性物质释放： 寒冷刺激和特定的呼吸技巧可能促进内啡肽、肾上腺素、去甲肾上腺素甚至内源性大麻素的释放，带来暂时的愉悦感、警觉性和能量提升。很多人报告在练习后感到精力充沛、心情愉悦。
* 自主神经系统调节： 呼吸练习（特别是屏息阶段）和寒冷暴露都能强烈刺激自主神经系统，长期练习可能有助于提高其调节能力，潜在地改善情绪稳定性。
* 专注与当下： 强烈的生理刺激（如寒冷）迫使人将注意力集中在当下，暂时摆脱杂念和焦虑，这本身就有一定的心理益处。
- 潜在的生理健康益处（有部分科学依据支持）：
* 改善循环： 寒冷暴露确实能训练血管的收缩和舒张，长期可能改善血管弹性（血管“健身”）。
* 减轻炎症： 一些研究（包括 Wim Hof 参与的研究）表明，他的方法（特别是呼吸技巧）可以暂时抑制急性炎症反应（如内毒素注射后的反应）。长期效果和对慢性炎症的影响仍需更多研究。
* 棕色脂肪激活： 寒冷暴露是激活棕色脂肪（产热、可能有助于能量消耗）的已知有效方法。
* 免疫系统调节： 短期的压力刺激（如寒冷）可能对免疫系统有调节作用，但具体机制和长期影响复杂。
- 赋予个体掌控感和能动性： Wim Hof 传递的核心信息是“你可以掌控自己的身体和心灵”，这极大地赋予了人们力量感和自主性，鼓励人们相信自身潜能，积极面对挑战。这种心态本身就对健康有益。
- 简单易行且成本低廉： 方法的核心组成（呼吸、冷水澡）相对容易学习，且不需要昂贵的设备或药物，使得更多人可以尝试。
潜在风险与需要注意之处：
- 安全风险：
* 寒冷暴露： 对于有心血管疾病（如高血压、心脏病）、雷诺氏症等健康问题的人来说，突然的寒冷刺激可能诱发危险事件（如心律失常、血管痉挛）。必须循序渐进，并在必要时咨询医生。 在冰水中长时间停留或无人看护下进行冰水浸泡有低体温症和溺水的风险。
* 呼吸技巧： 快速深呼吸可能导致过度换气，引起头晕、麻木、甚至短暂失去意识（尤其在水中练习时极其危险）。屏息时间过长也可能导致缺氧。严禁在水中或驾驶等需要保持警觉的情况下练习呼吸。
- 过度简化复杂健康问题： Wim Hof 有时会将其方法描述为能解决几乎所有问题的“万能钥匙”，这可能过度简化了精神疾病、自身免疫病等复杂健康问题的成因和治疗。虽然他的方法可能对某些症状有帮助，但不应取代专业的医疗诊断和治疗。
- 科学证据的强度和局限性： 虽然有一些初步的研究支持其方法的某些生理效应（如抗炎、自主神经调节），但很多关于长期健康益处（如治愈疾病、大幅延长寿命）的说法缺乏高质量、大规模的临床试验证据。一些研究是他本人参与或资助的，可能存在偏见。需要更多独立的第三方研究来验证其效果和安全性。
- “一切皆有可能”的心态可能带来的风险： 虽然强调意志力是积极的，但过度强调意念可以克服一切生理限制，可能让一些人在身体发出警告信号时仍强行推进，导致受伤或健康问题。
- 可能延误必要的医疗干预： 如果个体完全依赖 Wim Hof 方法来处理严重的健康问题，而忽略了寻求传统医疗帮助，可能会延误诊断和必要的治疗。
争议点：
- 声称的范围和程度： Wim Hof 经常做出非常广泛和惊人的声称，例如用意念控制免疫系统、自主调节体温对抗极端环境等。虽然他在一些实验中展示了非凡的能力，但这些能力是否能普遍适用于所有人，以及其背后的确切机制和可复制性，仍存在争议。
- 科学解释的准确性： 他有时会用自己的方式解释复杂的生理过程，这些解释不一定完全符合严谨的科学术语和理解，可能导致误解。
- 商业化与个人形象： 随着其方法的普及，商业化运作（课程、App、认证教练等）也随之而来。一些批评者认为这可能影响其信息的客观性，并质疑其个人形象的塑造是否带有表演成分。
综合评价：
Wim Hof 是一个极具魅力和感染力的人物，他的方法无疑帮助了许多人改善了抗压能力、情绪状态和活力。其方法的核心组成部分（寒冷暴露、呼吸练习）确实具有一定的生理基础和潜在益处，特别是对于增强心理韧性和暂时改善情绪方面。
然而，对其方法的潜在风险和声称的科学证据强度需要保持审慎和批判性的态度。
- 对于健康个体寻求提升活力、抗压能力和情绪调节能力， 在注意安全、循序渐进的前提下，尝试 Wim Hof 方法可能是有益的补充生活方式。
- 对于存在基础健康问题（尤其是心血管疾病）的人， 在尝试前必须咨询医生。
- 不应将 Wim Hof 方法视为治疗严重疾病的替代方案， 而应作为辅助手段，并始终以专业医疗意见为准。
- 需要区分个人体验、轶事证据与严谨的科学验证。虽然许多人报告了积极效果，但这不等于该方法对所有人都安全有效，也不等于其声称的所有益处都得到了充分证实。
总而言之，Wim Hof 方法提供了一套强大的工具，可以激发人体的潜能，改善身心连接。但使用者需要理性看待其效果范围，充分了解潜在风险，并以安全为首要前提进行实践。科学界对其方法的深入、独立研究仍在进行中，未来可能会有更清晰的认识。
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It is just not channeled to the people. It is not channeled to the people that people are actually innately capacitated to whatever causes depression and to whatever causes inflammation, which is disease, that we are able to cope with that.
00:21
Much better than they tell us right now. Yeah, so I just say this because it's from my heart But it's also from non-speculative research done. Yeah, and I want to get to the reader. I love the reader I love the viewer the participant who is searching who is searching for new knowledge for new insights because the world is on fire and
00:47
And who is able to extinguish it, that is you.
00:52
That is you, me, and the person who is listening to this podcast. Take it on. We are able and equipped with all the tools to battle any cause and effect of inflammation and of mood regulation that causes depression. We are able to deal with it. We are born to be happy, strong, and healthy. And we got all the tools. Only we need to awaken them.
01:20
Get your mindset together. Instead of saying, oh, we cannot battle a virus. We cannot battle bacteria. I cannot handle my emotion. I cannot handle mental stress. And it's all too much, all too much. No, no, no. You got much more than too much. But take them on. That is your mindset. Then take on some breathing, deep breathing techniques to change the chemistry inside you.
01:47
To all cells. We have shown this. People doing breathing techniques with the right mindset. What is the right mindset? I just want to battle the bacteria injected.
01:59
It's a controlled experiment, but I get very sick if I'm not battling it with these breathing exercises. That is mindset. I go and attack, attack the bacteria. So that is mindset. Done. Mindset. Then breathing techniques. Those breathing techniques we have learned. I've learned to deal with that in the cold. Cold is a big stressor. It automatically, when you go into the cold, what do you do is…
02:26
You wake up to your chemistry. That is what through the breath and that the breath makes us the alchemist. If we are able to handle the breath inside, we become the changes of our chemistry, the alchemist at work.
02:42
We can make us feel better. We can bring the life force better into our blood flow. With that, the nutrients, the oxygen, the vitamins, the life force itself going in through the breath.
02:59
And don't doubt because doubt is like a negative impact. It's neurology, a negative impact on yourself. Don't do that. Don't follow those who say it's all not possible. We have shown it through science because it was always, yeah, but maybe yes, maybe no, maybe this, maybe God is there, maybe this is there, maybe that. Nobody knows where it is.
03:24
And I tell you, it's right within you. It's there, the closest. It's not far away. It's right within you. Well, you've gone through quite the journey, Wim, because I do want to give people some explainer in terms of your background and what you've really gone through because you've been at this for more than 35 years now at this point. You've done studies around this. This is something you got into when you were… 44 years. 44 years. 44 years.
03:50
Goddamn. Yes, consciously, yeah. Amazing, consciously. And you've been doing this since you were about 17, is that right? 17, yes. 17. So how did this all get started? I want to give people some sort of background knowledge about who you are just so that… Because we went on for 15 minutes and you've certainly…
04:11
You've spatted a lot of stuff out that has been very useful. I certainly want to give people some background about who you are, how you got into this, so that it really translates more into your mission. Yes. First of all, I'm the most noble person you can ever meet.
04:29
I'm not at all, you know, out there and go. No, I'm easy do it. Easy does it. Easy does it. I'm a sort of a gardener. I want to take care of my family. I love animals. I love nature. I talk to trees. They talk back. Really? I got a person, a friend who got a polygraph on a tree and it shows that trees talk. They communicate.
04:55
They do. You can learn to translate that language and that's exactly what he did. So it sounds crazy that I'm talking to trees. How does that work though? How do you put a polygraph on a tree? On the twigs?
05:14
On the tree itself, on the bark, on the leaves, it's all different resonance. But in the end, it is all the same. Just different angles of noise, of audible entity, say. And he translated it into beautiful music.
05:35
It's amazing. It's amazing. So lately it came with an oak tree, oak tree symphony. And yeah, just bloody amazing. So I am a God and I'm a simple guy. But that is the way I began like a child, unknown to the world. And just being there, seeing the seeing wars, seeing injustice, injustice, injustice.
06:03
seeing abuse in the world, seeing animals being exterminated, killed and the cruelty. And I thought, this is not the world I want to believe in. I want to do something about this. So I set out right over there. When I was 17, 16, I set out, I am going to do, I have a dream and I'm going to realize that dream. That's where the journey began.
06:31
Once you begin to tattoo on your soul, you got to do it. You are driven. You always will remember it. If you swear deeply, a oath, sincerity, holding a dream to make the world a better place you think it should be, it always then will remember you. And that's what it did. I never lost belief.
06:57
Yeah, but how did it start, if you don't mind me asking, in terms of, you know, why did you specifically choose the cold and breathing? You know, why was that specifically your mission when you first started when you were 17? Yes. I was already from 12 years old into psychology, Hinduism, Buddhism. So five years before I went into the cold, I was a lot into my head.
07:24
I read a lot. I was really a nerd getting into so many philosophies and traditions and esoteric disciplines into yoga, Kung Fu, into karate, into anything I could get my hands upon. Is that because your parents were into that? No, nobody. Just me, myself. Just me, myself. I was a stranger in my neighborhood.
07:51
I was a stranger really. I was alien. I was yeah, man. He's strange. He's strange. That was me. Yeah, but I felt so I had a deeper deeper urge within me and I felt good. I felt good philosophizing debating thinking of it contemplating practicing and when I was 17
08:16
That was a morning in Sunday. There was a lake or the channel was frozen over nobody around I felt the attraction to go in I did that and there I got an answer of deep connection with deeper physiology Directly. It's like this is it without words kind of feeling You know it this is it
08:42
When you are struck by love, then you don't need to be explained, hey, what is love? What is happening to me? Hey, should I do this? Yes or no? Things like that. No, you, this is it. You are struck by lightning. And that is the way I felt right over there. And what was that? Was that like you went into ice water? Were you taking a cold shower? What was that specific moment when you realized?
09:10
outside in the park, in the channel, frozen over. It was ice water, but I did not feel the cold. It was power. I felt sheer power. I felt a direct, instant connection with deeper physiology of myself. I found I answer, which I had been philosophizing and debating about the five former years.
09:38
Hinduism, Buddhism, about Christianity, mystical Christianity, about esoteric disciplines, etc. I all did it in those five years. You cannot imagine maybe a 12-year-old. What does a 12-year-old do? But sometimes a 12-year-old can rule the world better than the idiots right now. I agree. I agree. But that's crazy, though. Did someone push you to go in? Did someone encourage you to go into…
10:05
I'm just so curious to know what drove you to just want to jump in. It was like there was a calling or something? That it is. When you fall in love, you do crazy stuff. When you fall in love with something, you feel the attraction, you just do it. And then the reason is that you feel attracted. That's the reason.
10:31
So there is no logic. There's possibly logic if you look into the biochemistry of what is happening right there. But there is no reason by thought. It is a reason by the law of attraction. And I went in and I found out this is what I was looking for. I was looking for the connection between a deeper self, a deeper self into the physiology. And now it shows that
10:59
that in the university studies, that what I touched upon in that moment was the deeper brainstem, the periaqueductal gray hemisphere, the place of the opioids, the place of the euphoric cannabinoids, the endocannabinoid system, thought of inaccessible by humans.
11:22
That was what I was looking for. In society where I came from, I was not satisfied. I was not at peace with what was commonly thought to be normal. You know, wars, disease, depression, abuse.
11:39
the power-driven people, all that, that is normal? No, I don't think so. I think control over your health, your happiness, and your strength, an unconditional being here, which has no need for something else because everything is already there.
11:59
We are born with that. That was I was looking for through my gut feeling. First, I was debating a lot. And then it was the time to fill it up with the deeper existence of the brainstem and limbic system. And it now shows in brain scans that I am able to tap into those systems voluntarily.
12:22
And that makes that 100% of my brain is able to be accessed by me at will. And that is what I teach the people who come to me. Listen, change your paradigm. It's not 16% control we have through our will over our brain, but 100%. And there is only logic.
12:50
The logic of nature is it doesn't provide us with things we never will use. We learn to not use it. But hey, if you don't use it in evolution, it says, if you don't use it, you lose it. And I say, yes. Sorry. Are you saying when you were 12 then, when you felt this calling to jump in to this ice pond in the park,
13:15
That was 17. Sorry, you were 17. Yeah, yeah, right. And you, that's crazy, first of all, right? When a regular person hears and just sees a random person jump into the ice pond, it's just, you're just unheard of because, well, first of all, I took a cold shower this morning and even before, it was been a while, but I wanted to prepare just before seeing you, William, which was, you know, I had a warm water on
13:43
And the moment that I knew that I was going to turn on the cold water, before I even felt the cold water, I just started shivering because most people, they're trying to stray away from the cold. But for you, when you were 17, did you not feel the cold as much when you were taking cold showers before you were 17? Is that why you didn't feel that fear of jumping in?
14:12
Absolutely no fear. Just attraction. It's going into an unknown experience. But because of the attraction, you just do it. You want to. You want to. Remember, you go back to the love. Principle of love. If you are in love, struck by love, you know, the love bug. When it's there, man, you do crazy stuff. You don't think about it. But you go from A to B.
14:43
And no matter what is in between you and me, you will get there. You will be like water. So me, when I was in there, going into the cold water, I felt the attraction. And that is the only way to overcome your own mind.
15:04
It's a feeling which is stronger than my mind is able to control. That it is. That is love. And I was a searcher, a searcher of the soul. And it got me through the cold. It got me to the cold. It picked by gut feeling. This is it what you need.
15:26
And then when I was in, then without words, but this is it, feeling, I got, absolutely. And then the other day I came back, I got the same rush. And I just built up great power and became aware of this deep breathing because that's exactly what you are going to do. You learn to experience deeper and you get a hold of it.
15:52
Then you get a hold of the deeper breathing. And then I began to do that deeper breathing also a part of the cold. Amazing what I also saw. By using the deep breathing, manipulation, pneumatic manipulation, pressurizing into the brain, into the chemistry, into the neurology, I could see all the chakras.
16:16
They're much more clear than any yogic book is telling us and that's all Learned by going into the cold the cold is my teacher It is a teacher which makes your thoughts go away because you gotta be and that being is a stronger part of survival of Share being it's deeper in the brain and it comes out. It's stronger than your thoughts and
16:44
And then the thought processes and your shared feeling and survival, the purpose of life, all coming together, all the layers of the brain coming together. And they are connected with all the body. That's where the control over the body began. Yeah. And that's basic. And we are not schooled in this in our society. But still, we are dealing with a lot of stress and we cannot deal with it.
17:09
I tell you, the cold is the way to learn about the stress mechanisms in the brain to deal with any kind of stress. So at that time, sorry, last thing, at that time, they called me crazy.
17:24
And now they have respect all over the world. And I'm teaching a lot of doctors, a lot of professors. We are all working together. And it's great. The new terrain we are finding and exploring is so much more to come. It's amazing. It's amazing. And I agree. I mean, the thing about the cold is it activates such a primal reaction that
17:52
That is very rare in our regular everyday society where we live under a gray roof for most people. We eat more meals than we should in a day. Oh, yeah. That's another topic. We'll get into that for sure. There's a lot to go into. The thing about this is for some people, it's really one of the biggest problems
18:20
um stressor kind of events if they were to take a cold shower of their whole week sometimes because most of us don't get enough exercise we don't go through enough stressors that we have it back in our you know in our tribal days like our ancestors um but i want to get into a bit of the science uh about the cold wind which is
18:43
I want to really understand from a biological perspective, like what is actually happening when our body's under immense cold water or ice water? Because certainly one thing, it makes it very hard to breathe, which I think is what makes people fear the cold as one aspect of it. Tell us a little bit about what's actually happening when we're facing a cold.
19:09
Yeah, amazing. The cold water immersion, gradual cold exposure makes our vascular system optimize to its natural condition. The natural condition of our vascular system, which contains millions of little muscles, it's about 120,000 kilometers of capillaries, veins and arteries within every body of us.
19:36
They contain millions of little muscles, very primitive muscles, to help the blood flow go through. When we go gradually into the cold, then the contraction and opening of those vessels and capillaries are being done. Thus, the little muscles, the primitive muscles, millions of them, are stimulated. They help the blood flow go through in the transportation system, the vascular system.
20:04
With that, we get a lot better transport. It sends then the oxygen, vitamins, nutrients, life force to the cells a lot better. We get a lot more energy. Logical. Not only the heartbeat changes,
20:21
The heart rate is going down with 20, 25, 30 beats a minute, 24 hours a day. It means stress will go out of your body. We live in a very stressful society and our heart rate needs to solve our blood flow going through all the time and it is stressed because it is pumping more than it should.
20:49
That is causing a stress reaction. It causes cortisol, glucose, adrenaline all the time. Because accelerated heart rate is only for stress situations there, for danger. When danger is there, then the heart begins to pump harder because adrenaline and glucose needs to be pumped through the system fast.
21:13
That's the function of the heart. Now what we do is bring it into a stressful situation wherein the vascular system is not optimized and the heart rate needs to pump more into the system to deal with the stress existent. And it's all day going on. Logically, cardiovascular related diseases in our society, skill number one.
21:41
And it kills more than any other disease. And nobody is talking about it. And I say a cold shower a day keeps the doctor away. I make it very simple.
21:53
Very simple. I can explain a whole book about what is happening in the cardiovascular system and the way it works on cell level, the way it works in the deepest of our brain, and all into the bone marrow, into the DNA, into the telomeres, into the protective cold shock proteins around the cell. I can talk about it very long. Please do. Please do. Yeah.
22:20
Take the cold shower. The cold shower peaks, makes the adrenal axis peak. A moment, just a moment. And that moment is enough to be triggered to get to the utmost functionality of your body. And that's the way you're going to feel if you take a cold shower. When you get out, you feel like renewed.
22:45
And that is great for the day because then it's like a vaccination, a natural vaccination. When stress later in the day is coming, your body is already alerted.
22:57
It is exactly there how to deal with the stress impact coming on the body, dealing with the chemistry inside, causing stress, overreaction, overpressure, and then the body doesn't know how to deal. In this case, it is ready. It's awakened.
23:17
It's awakened to deal with the stress because it dealt with the stress through the cold shower. So is it kind of like working out your heart? Because I do want to get into this heart disease because a lot of people talk about, especially with Corona happening, upping your immune system, which we'll get into. But you're right. I mean, the number one killer in America, certainly probably around the world as well, is heart disease. Right.
23:41
and men particularly have a problem with this as well. So when you're facing this like cold stressor and your body's telling you everything to get out of this cold,
23:52
And your heart's pumping like crazy and your blood vessels are constricted. Is that just in very simple layman terms, is that just like your heart working out just like you would be doing push-ups or bicep curls? It's like training your body to become more stronger, more resilient? Yes, absolutely. When you go into the cold shower, then it's you who is going into the cold shower. You are doing this consciously.
24:21
When you do it consciously, then your will is connected to the actions and to the stress inflicted upon you. That means you are consciously into it. Your neurology is connected to the stress impact happening. That means you learn how to become peaceful, in control, while being in a stressful situation.
24:46
That is what you do by going into the cold shower. Only we are very, very well equipped to go into a cold shower. It's absolutely hormetic exercise. That is positive induced stress upon the body like sports. But in this case, we are dealing with the vascular system, the best
25:08
Vascular fitness training exercise is going into a cold shower. With that, you are doing this consciously. You connect the neurology with the body and deal with the stress inflicted upon the greatest organ of yourself, which is the skin.
25:29
You connect with the skin. You directly know how to activate the adrenaline to withhold and adapt to the stressor.
25:42
And with that, you become connected through the neurology with that stress mechanism. And then later, when the stress comes in, mental stress, emotional stress, distress, death stress, congestion, you have to do more, deadlines, etc., then you are able to activate this stress mechanism just by thought. I've shown this in Michigan.
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I've shown they thought this is not possible. This is top down regulation.
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Instead of the body inflicted with pain and this and stress and that and then deal with it. No, I top down regulate the stress coming in at the moment when stress is inflicted upon me. This was thought impossible. Now, it was always from down up. And now it is from not only from down up, you become very resilient if you take cold showers.
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but also you learn to have a top-down regulation power and that makes you able to deal by thought at will with stress. This was unknown and I tell you now this, this is based on science, they say this is a transformational technique that will change mental health care.
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Because nobody knew how to top down regulate their mood when it was going into depression, psychosis, into bad feelings, bad emotions, whatever. And now it has been shown in brain scans how to do that, how to tap into the depth of the brain.
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all very controlled and robustly activate what they thought was impossible by humans to activate. And now it is there. And now, you know, the principle, Sean, when the first time the people ran the 100 meters within 10 seconds, then after 150 years of Olympics, nobody did that. Then suddenly one person did it. And then one year later,
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10, 15 people could do it. Of course, it needs conditioning of the body, but mostly it is in the mind, in our paradigm. We better begin to believe that we are the masters in our mind to top-down regulate our moods.
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And our mood is being influenced by all kinds of stresses, making us feeling bad. And now we are able just by thought to deal with that stress and inhibit it to influence our mood. We want to be happy and stay happy or poised or in equilibrium or in balance. We did not know how to do it.
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And now I tell you, we know how to do it. And the cold shower is a great way to learn to regulate our mood besides of conditioning the vascular system. Yeah, and in addition to the benefits of the mind and, of course, the heart, the thing that you also talk about on your website is brown fat and the difference between… Can you give some people some idea about what brown fat is, how that's different from white fat, and what the benefits of…
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cold water in, in terms of brown fat and how it benefits us? Yes.
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Brown fat was considered to be impossible to activate and that was no longer present in people my age, for example, or 50 years and older, 40 years and older. And now I'm 61. I got a lot of brown fat. And not only that is because of regular exposing myself to the cold and the brown fat actually you get when you are a baby and babies have no ability to run, to warm up.
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They got this mechanism of brown fat. Brown fat is fat with a lot of mitochondria. Mitochondria are like energy factories. And when the cold comes in, they begin to work, to be activated. So they cause energy.
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That is warmth. They generate simply warmth, energy. That's what the mitochondria, and those mitochondria, they oxidate. And oxidation is red. The fat is white. That makes it brown. Hence the word brown fat.
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And what a brown fat is able to do also, when it is being exhausted, when the white fat is exhausted, then it retrieves white fat from all the body, wherever it can get it from. And that is the way people get into weight loss.
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by exposing themselves into cold. The brown fat will work, exhaust the white fat, then we'll explore for new white fat to come in to produce energy again. That is the training of going into the cold. But now I've shown even a bigger source of energy. And that is done through the mind. I showed in the brain scans while being exposed
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motion being motionless in a brain scan motionless just by thought to make ice water inflicted or How do you say Being exposed by ice water upon the skin making the skin temperature by being motionless just by thought Making the skin temperature not going down. I
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That is a control at will. The professors there, they say Wim Hof has found the secret of placebo.
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So placebo is no longer that's the human power to the psychic power to deal with healing. When the doctor is saying this pill works and it's nothing but sugar, but it still works. Yeah, that's the human psychic power. And we don't know where it is and how it is. But now I've shown how to deal with that consciously, how to use it consciously.
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So we don't need a suggestion anymore. We don't need a doctor to tell us this is this and that. And then things are going to happen. We know now how to tap in. And this is the paradigm shift. How what I want to bring to the people. You are capable of so much more at will within your own body and your own mind. Expand to it.
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Just take it on, find out it's there. So brown fat is one. Then you got the intercostal muscle activity. They did not know of this until I showed. Because when I was motionless, my intercostal muscles still worked. They produced a lot of energy. So much that the temperature of the skin being exposed to ice water
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was one degree up than normal and it stayed over there. Can you imagine how much energy was being released? It's like a heater was going on and I was doing nothing. That is being activated just by the power of the neurology of the mind.
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So, we got brown fat, but now that's what they found when they were searching within me. That was a Maastricht in science, nuclear science. They have been investigating on me. Then they found out, “Oh, we found the secret of the Iceman,” the other day in the newspapers. It is brown fat. And then I showed it's not brown fat only. There is more.
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With your consciousness, you are able to generate even with your willpower. You are able to deal with stress, coldest stress, and it needs energy to deal with. And we are able to generate just by sheer will, voluntarily, a lot more energy. And when it's coming and we are in control, then bacterial stress, viral stress, emotional stress, mental stress, any stress is being dealt with.
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Because in the end, there is so much the body needs to maintain that energy we are conditioned to deliver. But when something happens, we don't have this extra energy. And now I found at will how to generate more energy than the maintenance is needed to have. So we got this new findings. First, it was the brown fat.
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That is good. Also for weight loss, very nice, great. Also good for the vascular system to expose yourself to cold, gradually, not forced, gradually. That is all good. And then you got the control of the mind over the body by activating intercostal activity, muscle activity, generating more energy.
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And then you have this mind power suddenly there. Top-down regulation, how to create more energy, which you need when it is cold.
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but which you need when you are sick because the plasticity and neuroplasticity of your body, it needs energy, extra energy besides of the maintenance of the body. And we normally don't know how to do that, but now I have shown how to do that, how to bring it to the human consciousness. And your work and my work coming together is bringing it out to the people.
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For that, it is a great platform. For that, I thank you that I'm here, a part of your platform. Thank you. Thank you, Wim. The thing that struck me as well in terms of the brown fat, it really brings me to the next topic that I wanted to talk about. So you're saying that brown fat allows us to regulate the temperature of our bodies so that we can withstand more cold in the future as we develop more brown fat.
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Yes, through regular going into regular practice outside in cold, you will activate more brown fat. But once your mind is beginning to work, the neurology of the mind, that means when you consciously go into the cold, then before you go into the cold, you are already activating the body.
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With your mind. Because you know you are going into the bloody cold. And it's cold. It's real. So you, through your mind, through your awareness, are activating the adrenal axis. You activate and get ready the vascular system to constrict.
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to be in control. And we have this neurological connection, so only we have lost it because we never used it. Once again, you don't use it in evolution, you lose it. But now I say it's all there guys. So the brown fat is when you are a baby and when you are young, because then your mind is not as much developed.
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But once it gets developed, you are able to use your mind and to generate much more at will, just at will, to generate a lot more energy inside the body. That is inside the mitochondria. Mitochondria energy factories in the cells.
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We are able to influence into the genes, into the DNA, into the cell, into the stress mechanisms of the cell, into the cell biological stress, all that. And another thing is we are able to go into the thermoregulation of the cell, creating energy.
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to oppose whatever is going to come. Because your mind is not there just for thinking one and one is two and two and two. No, it's learning how to oppose at will, activate the body to oppose stress in any way. Yeah, and that's amazing. Yeah, that's the big key.
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That is the big key. And I brought that up because… Sorry, wait a minute. I brought that up because the biggest struggle that people have and the benefit of this brown fat being able to help us regulate our temperatures more is that…
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Knowing that cold water and taking cold showers or ice bath is a good thing, you're actually creating this positive feedback loop or positive loop where the more cold showers you take, the less difficult it's going to be in the future and the more benefit that you're going to get by continuing to take more cold showers and
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And as you take more cold showers, you get more brown fat, the more resilient you become. So it really is this positive loop that is happening biologically in our bodies. Because the key thing that I wanna talk to you about here, Wim, is
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We know vegetables are good for us. Most people don't eat it. Meaning it's amazing that the science and the scientific research that you're putting out there in terms of cold water and cold exposure becoming really beneficial for our body. And I think there's a lot of people around the world that are sold on that. But similar to me where I know that cold water is great. I know that a lot of people know that exercise is great. The problem is getting people to actually take action.
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So, yes, I want to focus a little bit on that, meaning you've now not just done it for yourself, but you've trained people all around the world. You know, we have a mutual friend that's gone through your program. What is it that can help people learn?
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really go through their fears, whether it's priming their minds, whether it's being able to withstand the cold longer when they're a part of it? What is it that has worked for some of the students that you've taught to actually go through it and actually go through the cold? Yes. That is scientifically, non-speculatively, it has been shown that everybody is able to deal with the cold. Gradual exposure, even for hard people,
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cardiovascular related diseases suffering people. I had people with four bypasses climbing with me the Kilimanjaro in a racket time in shorts. Yeah man so there is no excuse for nobody anybody who has any fear and I'm talking a person of 65 years older
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And he was capable of doing what younger people are not able to do. And with four bypasses, man, there is no excuse. The call is a great teacher. It brings about the connection between our physiology and our mind. The connection brings back a deep natural connection. And with that comes the ability to
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to deal with inflammation, the ability to deal with mood regulation. If you want that, if you never want depression anymore, if you don't want inflammation, get a hold of Colt within your life. And you got all the power, all the tools, all the physiological capacity to deal with that. There is no doubt. So no excuse. Get into it because it is good for you. I love you.
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I love you. And that's why I make you go into a cold shower because you got to be a better person, better version of yourself. Yeah. Yeah. And I've seen people like singing when you guys are doing some of the ice baths or you guys are doing some sort of rituals. Is there any priming of the mind that you do with students to…
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to help them withstand the cold when they're first starting? Because it is a real problem, even though I know that it's really beneficial for me. Honestly, the problem is actually doing it. This is 99% of the problem, right? We have the information, but how do we actually get people to take action? So do you recommend people just jump into the deep end of the pool and just
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and just fucking go for it and, and know that the more you do it, the more you'll be able to withstand it because of the things that we talked about with brown fat and our minds being able to control ourselves. Or is there some sort of mental preparation that, or even like exercises that you recommend people do for the first time for the person that has never done a cold shower or nice bath? What is it that has helped people based on your experience?
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You know what it is, Sean? Every morning when I go into the cold shower, it is a new experience. It is still cold. Of course, my body is quite adapted, but still I feel the shock. I feel the shock. I feel the electricity. And I love it. I love it. It's always kind of negative.
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It's like shocking always but I know that the benefits are huge is so much it's like You got money, but you have to play a risk in shares But you do it and then you get a lot more back but not in the beginning But for sure in this case it is guaranteed that the investments is by far the outcome It is simply there
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It is a choice I give to the people. Listen, you don't have to do it. But the best thing you can do for yourself is taking the damn cold shower every day because it will connect you with your deeper potential, which is far more than where you have control over right now.
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Just do it once and say what you feel afterwards and say how it affected during the day and then say it is not so Wim. It makes me just feel bad. There's no energy more. I'm very stressed about everything. Tell me that. Then I say, you are right. I will learn of you. But until then, take the damn cold shower because it is good for you.
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And you know what? We are very well equipped to take the cold shower. We got all the tools. We got the vascular system. Killer number one, cardiovascular related diseases. That is because we think we can live in this comfort zone behavior without a punishment. No, we cannot. The enemy is inside. It's dormant. Our powers are not awakened yet.
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Virus and bacteria are able to set in. The blood flow is not flowing the way it should or the way it can. A cold shower is able to awaken our immune system, our vascular system, lymphatic system and endocrine system. By far the best exercise for your cardiovascular system ever.
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We should get it into mental health care and into regular health care all over the world. And that is my mission, by the way, to bring this into mental and physical health care all over the world. I'm doing a good job as a drop out of school. My belief is carrying me and I go through any paradigm.
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to bring some love, power, happiness, strength, and health to the people. Take the damn cold shower. It's beautiful. And do the breathing exercises and learn to be the alchemist. That's my message. Absolutely, absolutely. And certainly the mood is a big part of it. I know that in Scandinavian countries like Finland, Denmark, Sweden,
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I know Netherlands isn't part of the Scandinavian countries, but Iceland is certainly one of them. They've been known to take these ice baths and jump into ice waters. It's a fairly common thing mixed in with sauna exposure. Even in Sweden, I was lately in the biggest talk show of Scandinavia on television.
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And they asked me because I walked in in shorts. It was still winter. And I walked in shorts and I walked over through Stockholm in shorts everywhere like I do all the winter. Yeah, in shorts. I always say make of the winter your summer.
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Act like it is summer. That is powerful. So I walked into the studio, I talked to the host and the first thing he was saying, I imagine that there was nobody else but you walking in shorts here in wintertime in Stockholm. I said, hey man, do you remember where you came from? The Vikings?
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When the Vikings, they explored all over the world. They went to America in wooden ships into the unknown. You know why? Because they were very well adapted to the cold.
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They were so much more exposed and so much more activated from within. They were strong. They were ruling over the world far before Christopher Columbus and before the Western world began to colonize the rest of the world. Those were the Vikings. And that Viking blood is within me, but also within you.
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We all got that. We are all explorers in this world. And the cold is the great teacher to activate the deep physiology of having no fear, but go explore. Yeah, come to think of it, I don't think I've seen you wear pants. I've always seen your calves every video. Do you own pants, Wim?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes, you know, when there is a funeral of somebody, maybe I wear some pants, you know, for the distancing, something like that. But I think pants are ridiculous. Don't say that to the pants industry. I mean, we got legs, man. We got legs. Show your legs. Show your calves, guys. Show your calves.
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Well, what I was saying about the Scandinavian countries, it's crazy that that was kind of the, it's like a very popular thing there for people to take these cold water baths or jump into these ice waters. And I don't know,
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I don't know if it's a causation or correlation, but when you look at the World Happiness Index report, Finland is the happiest country by ratings, followed by Denmark and Iceland and all these different countries. I think Netherlands is one of the top countries out there. So I don't know if that's a causation or a correlation, but it says a lot about how cold exposure can certainly help us increase our moods, right? Yes. They use a lot of sauna.
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and they run a lot of outside and that you know stimulation through the cold on the cardiovascular system which is the life force itself being transported through the vascular system if that is not done then logically the condition of ours goes down and our hormonal uh condition
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which is creating the dopamine, the serotonin, the cannabinoids, all the good hormones, are not so well flowing. And it is just logic. Embrace the cold. There is the warmth of life.
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Absolutely. Yeah. And you brought up saunas as one of them. I wanted to dig into some of the benefits of heat as well. We talked a lot about ice. We talked a lot about cold. I want to know a little bit more about how we can use heat as well with the cold that acts as a complement to help us either get over the cold or help us benefit from a health perspective.
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Yes, the heat is also working on the thermoregulation in our brain. This is the hypothalamus. Hypothalamus is the thermoregulator, both of the cold and the heat. And together with that, you are able to train the thermoregulative mechanism, the hypothalamus, which is also very much connected to the emotion.
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So if you learn to go into the cold, into the heat, you learn how to go into the emotion, to deal with the emotion. That's what you learn simultaneously. Because in the end, cold is emotion. Heat is emotion. You feel it. It's strong. So the one thing what the cold is doing is contraction of your vascular system in the deepest.
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to maintain core body temperature. And what heat is doing is the contrary, is dilatation, opening up completely for the core body temperature not to rise too much. And so both are dealing with the same system. Only one is going in, one is going out. The heat is a great way to train the thermoregulation, the hypothalamus, the emotion. The core does the same.
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I did a marathon in the Corp running beyond the Polar Circle in short in January. And then I did a full marathon, non-trained in the Namib Desert in the heat without drinking as well. Half a year later.
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Yeah, this is what I did. And it showed. I never had the experience of going into a desert before. And directly, boom, I was believing I was training the thermoregulation mechanism of my body and brain. And I thought, OK, let's test it out together with a physiologist and measurement devices of the university into the desert. No drinking, full marathon, no training.
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and doing it and then showing that I was able to control my core body temperature. So my core body temperature remained 37 degrees, both in the cold and in the heat, exposed into the extreme.
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I mean, I'm not a runner even, and I just do breathing right, and I go, hey, I want to do a marathon, full marathon in the beyond the polar circle. Okay, let's do it. Now, I want to do a full marathon in the desert without drinking and just do it. And I did it. So, done.
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And what I can say about the heat, it is also training. It's called hormetic exercise. If you stay a quarter of hour into a hot sauna, then you are exercising because once again, it is consciously done. It's you who is going into the sauna.
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And when it is getting really hot, then you have to exercise by your mind, activate deeper systems to deal with the heat. That means you are activating mechanisms never been activated because there's never such a stress.
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Now there is such a stress, you go and link neurologically, consciously with deeper systems that makes you able to connect with those systems. And when then a stress comes in the world, then you are able to activate those deeper stress mechanisms and deal with the stress. So both the heat and the cold are great for exercising deep systems within us at will.
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to deal later on with any kind of other stress, any shape. Does it matter for people that want to develop a daily routine or whether at their gym and they have access to a sauna and a cold shower after they're working out, is there any difference in terms of what they should do first? Should they get into heat first and then cold, cold or heat? Is there a matter? Yes, it is a big difference. If I say to top athletes…
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how to deal with the cold. I say before you go into a match, go into the cold. Go into the cold. Where you go into the cold, you exercise the adrenal axis. You are into survival because you got to deal with the cold. That means when you are into survival, then that is activating a mechanism that makes you to the utmost of functionality.
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That is the way the body is able to deal with danger. When you go into the cold, you voluntarily, you activate that system. Now, what do you want when you are in a match or in a fight or in performance? You want to be the best version of yourself. So go into the cold before.
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Then come down and be relaxed. But then at that moment, your body is awakened and it's glanced into the depths.
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to be able to take the full potential in, fully breath, instead of wrong chemistry inside, it is excreted through the cold. It's out of there. The body is cleansed. So the body, the vessel, is able to be used to get into the power, opposing power, struggle, fight, into the, how do you say, the equation.
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get the equation right without disturbances, chemical disturbances in the body. And that makes you suddenly able to deal with the situation because your body is becoming a clean vessel. That is one. Then after when you did your match, your fight, your performance, people tend to go directly into the cold. I say don't do that. Wait an hour.
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Because we are talking physically about super compensation. Super compensation is compensation of the loss you got through the exertion of your body in the action, in the match, in the fight. Maybe muscles are torn. Maybe you had to exert more of your muscle tissue, your bones, your this, your that. Your body needs to learn.
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And it only learns at the moment when you are in rest again. Then it learns how to deal with that to be prepared for the next time. That is called super compensation. Then when the super compensation is done after an hour, then go into the ice bath for restoring, for restoring and healing.
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because the body will be contracted very much so all the acid acid the acidity gets out of the body and then the body is able to become alkaline it's able to enter with energies the neurotransmitters are able to run through and it's all okay it's amazing how it works all and do breathing techniques
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The breathing techniques, once again, is learning how to change the chemistry deeply within us. It really is so. And it helps a lot with creating more ATP, more molecules.
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that is adenosine triphosphate, that is mitochondrial activity to influence by aerobic dissimulation means more oxygen getting into the energy factories, creating more energy and that energy is being used for plasticity in the body, the healing, the restoration, the renewal and all besides of the maintenance of the body and its energy consumption therefore.
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You see? So that is the way we use the cold in sports, in performance. But in daily life, it also works like that. Imagine people who have cancer. They are doing more than top sport. They have to be on top of themselves, of their energy.
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Being depleted by chemo by healing by feeling nauseous by feeling bad for those people Doing this method. It's amazing. It's amazing I get a lot of reports back of people having cancer doing chemo and they say it was the best time of my life Yeah What is that? You know people should get into that. I
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Man, oh man, I got so many miracles to report. I will not start. It's too much. It's too much. People are taking this on and I tell you, this shit works. And it's amazing what you can do with the power you have got inside if you are awakening to it. It's amazing. We are amazing beings, all of us. Right. So, so,
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Just to go back slightly into the timing aspect of it. So morning is fine for cold showers. Right before like an intense exercise, you don't want to do extreme cold showers. So basically when someone's like working out at the gym, they want to go into a sauna first, you're saying, right after. And then after 30 minutes or so, then go into colder water, right? Yeah.
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Yes, all good. Yes. Okay. And does that also work for- That's a good resume. Besides of that, we have a free app on our website which explains it all, which gets people all in the right by protocol with beautiful graphics. We work on that every month to embed it. It is all for free.
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We want everybody to be able to access within their own potential for free and show all the science being done, all the experience of a natural field work of the last 40 years. It's all in there and it's all simplified. Simplified,
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accessible and effective it's all there so please get it get it to the people it's on the whim half method dot com and then the free app take them on all is there it's amazing
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Yeah, yeah. No, I definitely… I've checked out the free app, actually. I've had it two years ago and I still regularly use it. It's really amazing. Breathing is certainly one of the things that you focus on in the app and in terms of your methods as well. I want to dig a little bit into breathing because there's a lot of different opinions out there in terms of how to breathe properly. I've been taught multiple different ways. Like I used to breathe out with my chest out and it's…
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I don't think that's the way either, but you seem to be pretty open-minded in terms of how to breathe because some people teach you to breathe out with your mouth. Easy does it, yes. The thing is, I got it through the signs.
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It was not shown in science, comparative scientific research, how to breathe in a way to being able to access into mechanisms and physiology, human physiology, unknown by science. And now through these breathing techniques, which is very simple, everybody is able to do it. It's by the belly.
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fully in, belly, chest, fully in and then letting go. Belly, chest, fully in and then letting go. Belly, chest, letting go.
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You do this 30 times, man, you get high on your own supply. And then suddenly, yeah, man, the carbon dioxide will be effectively blown off. Alkalinity is the product. That is one. It will spike. With that spike, the adrenal axis will
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With that, suddenly you are able to withhold from breathing after exhalation. And that creates a deep influence on the chemistry. Because suddenly, after exhalation, you are not breathing for one minute, two minutes, maybe three minutes. Three minutes! Unprecedented how effective this breathing technique is for a novice.
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If you do it well, you will be able to touch the three minutes after exhalation. No breathing. That means that there is a whole cascade of chemical consequences deeply going on inside the body and the brain.
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Suddenly the brainstem, the deepest of the brain begins to be activated and you are doing the exercise so you learn to neurologically connect with the deepest part of the brain. And I say to everybody, if you learn to connect with the deepest part of the brain consciously, then what other part of the brain is not accessible?
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Any part. And this has been shown in brain scans. So there is no secret to your potential. It is yours. But find the secret. Find the treasure.
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It is yours. It is your beautiful mind. It's your beautiful soul, which wants to go uninhibited, expressed in your mind and your body. And you are taking care. You are the captain of your soul. You take away what is inhibiting your soul to be expressed. You are a being of light, not of heaviness, a being of light, not in the dark. That's what we are. We should dance.
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We should sing because we are alive. That's who we are. And is it so simple? I'm sorry, guys, that it is so simple. It is simplified. It is effective and shown by science. And now I tell you, this is the science of the soul. I love you guys.
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This is the love I'm sharing. I'm sharing the keys to tap into your beautiful mind and into your beautiful body. Feeling great, feeling happy, strong and healthy. That is the emanation of your soul. Be strong, healthy and happy. There you find all the confidence. There you find all the prosperity you can pass on to your children, to your beloved. It's amazing. It's love.
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Yeah, absolutely. I mean, the part about activating different parts of your brain, it's certainly amazing. I only wish stuff like this was taught in bigger universities, institutions, universities.
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And I agree, it's simple. And that's almost part of the barrier, I feel, because for people to justify, you know, the education system is so broken here in America. I know in Scandinavian countries and Amsterdam and a lot of parts of Europe, you guys are doing it pretty well there in terms of education costs. But in America, for people to pay hundreds and thousands of dollars to
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they almost want things to be more complicated because that's how people justify in their minds to pay such a large amount because of how complicated things are. This is part of the reason why we led to the 2008 real estate crisis. I'm a dropout of school. I'm teaching doctors and professors all over the world. Better than a lot of professors and doctors.
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What kind of universality is that? It doesn't cost anything. It costs breathing. Breathe, motherfucker. Breathe. Amazing. Amazing. And the big thing that kind of the last main points that I want to talk about in terms of activating certain parts of your brain is depression is a big thing, right? Depression is certainly one of the top things.
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Killers, we talked about heart disease. We talked about building an immune system. But what this allows us to do in terms of breathing, exposing ourselves to cold. Talk to us a little bit about the science about how is this? I know this is a big thing that you want. One of these big missions that you have and one of the big visions that you have of curing depression around the world. How does the cold and how does the breathing aspect due to our brain chemistry to help us relieve depression or cure it?
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Yes, so depression is caused by serotonin inhibited serotonin uptake and a lack of dopamine same for Parkinson's for example. It's the hormonal system. So are we able to access into our hormonal system and rebalance that what is out of balance? Yes, we have shown this now. That's the endocrine system, the hormonal system.
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and inflammation. So endocrine system, the hormonal system, how to balance that, are we able to do that? Which is able to deal with that which is out of balance, which is called depression, psychosis, bipolar, schizophrenia, bad feelings, emotional hurt, all that is affecting our hormonal balance. And then we are feeling bad.
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That's logical because the hormonal hormones are out of balance. Now, we were taught that we are not able to rebalance it at will.
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We are not taught. And now I teach the people, yes, we can bring it back at will in balance. And with that, you will gain mastery over your mind to bring back balance, harmony, happiness, poise, equanimity, peace in your mind.
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That it is. And that is done through the breathing, which is making the inflammation go down, which is also helping the cause to get things out of balance in the hormonal system. We bring the inflammation down and we bring the hormonal system into willful activation. And with that, we rebalance that one.
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what is out of balance. As simple as it is. The professors in Michigan, they told me we found the key components. This is the way they published it in neuroscience. After finding this with me, this is the way they published it. We now have the compelling evidence of the key components of the autonomous processes. The autonomous processes are
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The keys therefrom: processes in the brain related to mood regulation. This is the way they put it. That what was out of balance and we had no willful control over that is now we found the key components. And now we have the willful possible control to get it back into balance.
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That means we become the master over our mind in any stressful situation. And that is the message. Guys, wake up. Do the breathing. Do the cold showers. And find the control with which you are born with to control your own mood. To deal with any kind of stress in your life.
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That key is now handed over to you. It's your choice. You want it? It works. You don't want it? I bless you. Likewise. Right, right. And going back to the study that you were talking about, is that because, you know, back in the tribal days, the way humans used to live was they were hunting for food in the wilds.
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uh, with shorts on maybe, maybe they were, I'm sure they were naked. Actually, they didn't have pants on whatsoever. They were, you know, surviving the cold winter. They were running for their lives. No jeans for sure. Uh,
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No yoga pants, nothing like that. None of that BS out of there. No stretchy yoga pants. But they were running for their lives, right? And that allowed us to activate certain stressor responses in our brains where follow-up now to present day, it's just not happening. There's parts of our brains that are just dead. They're never being activated because of the comfort lives that we live. We have more food that we need. So you're saying this is like a shortcut to
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to activate using nature, which is the things that we already have in our world, to kind of shortcut and activate certain of those brain, parts of our brain that needs to be activated to regulate our mood and depression. I'm going crazy here. Yes, I wouldn't be able to explain it better. You got it. You nailed it. So this is a shortcut. It's a shortcut and it reconnects us
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With that, what was lost through our comfort zone behavior, through the industrialization and the robotica and the extension tools, we have become lazy bumps.
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Because we don't want to experience stress in any way. We take the car instead of walking, instead of cycling. We sit in a chair for hours and hours and hours and keep on doing it. We don't go to run. The cold, man, I got five jackets to put layers upon me going out, not feel the cold. I mean…
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Nature, we are alienated, deprived of stimulation from the external environmental stresses. We are built, our physiology, after millions of years, is still built to be able to be stimulated through the environmental stresses, to be optimized. Nature is not a fool. We are fools.
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And we should get back and take the shortcut, consciously getting in, like a dog. We have to go out with the dog. But we also have this mammal inside. We got to take the mammal out.
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get the clothes off and get back in nature, even just for a moment, that makes that forgotten part in our brain and body alive again. Then you will feel 100% alive. Not 20, 25% or 16% within willful control. 100%. That is, the nature is no fool. We are fooling ourselves.
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Let's get back and regain control over our mind, which has been developed over millions of years. And it's not to be used 100%. That is not logic. It should be able to be accessed by us at will 100%. And that is rooted all over into the body. And then we are able to regulate our mood, become happy, strong, and healthy. No problem.
01:15:53
Beautiful, Wim. Well, I commend you for the work and the millions of people that you're helping, not just with depression, but being able to optimize their minds, being able to optimize their bodies and to handle more stressors.
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It's a big part of something that I know is part of your mission. I lost my aunt to suicide about 10 years ago. And it's a big thing that my mom had to deal with. And everyone in our family, I know you dealt with something very similar. And I really commend you for the work that you've done. It seems like you've lived almost in one lifespan together.
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what someone can do in 10 lifespans. You know, you've done Kung Fu in Beijing, you've broken world records, you speak what, 10 languages? Is that right?
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Yeah, I speak the best language of all of them. This is the language of the open heart. I speak a lot of languages, but it doesn't matter too much. That doesn't matter much. The language of the heart understands everybody. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I mean, it's really, I commend you for all that you've done. And it seems like you've really lived a full life, a positive life, and one that is so unique. I'm curious to know, for someone that seems so…
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invincible and someone that has lived all these different aspects of your life, how do you look at death? Oh man, death is boring. I want to be alive all the time. I released myself of the concept and fear of death when I lost way under the ice. This is about 20 years ago.
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I got lost under the ice, breath hold in shorts in ice water, one meter thick, the ice upon me. And I lost the weight. And it was just breath hold. And I couldn't find the hole because my cornea froze. You know, the eyes, I had no goggles on. And I couldn't see the holes. It was just all a blur. And there you are, breath hold and swimming, swimming for life, swimming for the hole. And you cannot find it.
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And there I found out, because I had a control over the breath done just before entering into the water, I did my breathing exercises very deep, very well, that I actually had control all the way through, over my agony, over drowning, the drowning reflex, the agony, the claustrophobic moments and all that. It was not there.
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I was in control. And there, when I came finally out, grabbed by a diver, he grabbed me by the ankle, brought me back to the 60-meter yard hole, the 50-meter hole. And then I took… There I was fully back on again. First, I was yelling a little bit, where are you guys? And this and that. I almost died. But then…
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I found out I had conquered that concept we have over death and the fear which goes along with it. If you control the time of the death, your breath, your breathing, then you are able to control the chemistry. With the chemistry, the electricity system called the nervous system. When you have to shut down the building because Elvis needs to leave the building,
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He needs to go out, man. Yeah, some other place. Because we have a purpose coming into this body. We have a purpose going out of this body. And that purpose is the soul. I believe in the soul. I believe in the afterlife like in the before life.
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And it's nothing more than logic. It's metaphysics, matter dynamics. It goes beyond our body. It's like a telephone and our data is in the sky. How do you say? The iCloud. It doesn't need our body. It's still there.
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My consciousness is still there and it stays there. Only I am evolving to another body and I'm happy to do so. And I will find out for those who still have the fear how to control the pathway to death and the passageway to the afterlife.
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I will show how that all works within the DNA, within the genome expressions, within the telomeres, and within the brain, within the seat of the brain of the soul, which is the epiphyse, the pineal gland. I will all show that because I'm into that itinerary with professors and doctors right now. So before I go, I will have shown how to go.
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that there is more than meets the eye and that where fear has no place in that just joy just the joy and feeling of Accomplishment and when you are done you don't want to do overdo it again that feeling is gonna come So that's what I think of that. Well, I'm really honored to be part of one of the major You know
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movements that are happening in terms of spreading your message, I think this is a great place to end. I recommend people to check out wimhofmethod.com. You've got a free app that you have. You've got an online course. You've got a book that's coming out. You're on a roll, man. I mean, it seems like in the last five to 10 years, the world has awakened to the Iceman, to protect other people, which is the definition of Wim.
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It's amazing what you're doing, Wim. It's an honor to have you on and love to have you back on. And thank you so much for your time.
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Hey, Sean, we are likewise all the respect for your work. We are bringing out something real good and we're bringing it down to what it is. And that is love. And that is power to all the people and all living beings and respect and harmony with nature. That's what we do. So we stand up. We are proud of what we do and we keep on. I believe it, sir. Thank you so much.
