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对话开始时，丹尼 (Danny) 和乔治·丁科夫 (Georgie Dinkov) 聊起了各自的辛苦。丹尼抱怨今年上半年因为养了两只狗而睡眠不足，乔治则回应说养孩子、有配偶、两份工作以及24/7回复客户邮件同样艰难。丹尼开玩笑说，如果早知道养狗这么麻烦，可能就不会养了，尽管他自认为是爱狗人士。乔治则开玩笑说狗肉好吃，并提到有韩国朋友特地回国吃狗肉，丹尼指出这是个不好的刻板印象。

接着，丹尼询问保加利亚的情况。乔治说保加利亚现在人人自危，因为战争离得太近。如果战争扩大，罗马尼亚、保加利亚和波兰等北约外围国家可能会首当其冲，成为炮灰。保加利亚民众普遍反战，不希望与俄罗斯开战，但政府非常亲北约，甚至是被外国大使馆挑选出来的。最近爆出丑闻，总理公开承认保加利亚的情报机构、执法机构和政府官员都需要得到美国、英国和德国大使馆的预先批准，选举完全是假的，民众投票毫无意义。

丹尼谈到加文·纽森 (Gavin Newsom) 不竞选总统的消息，乔治则反问卡玛拉·哈里斯 (Kamala Harris) 当选是否会加速“审判日”的到来。他们提到了乌克兰安全主管称第三次世界大战已经开始的新闻。乔治列举了近期一些事件，如波兰直升机多次侵犯白俄罗斯领空，俄罗斯无人机残骸落在罗马尼亚境内等，认为这些都是升级局势的明显企图，甚至可能出现“假旗事件”来启动北约第五条款。他认为，即使没有这些事件，制造一个类似“北部湾事件”的假事件也并非难事，尤其在当今技术发达的时代。

关于金融状况，乔治认为目前市场的上涨完全是投机，是之前印钞的结果，这些钱并未从经济中抽离。他解释说，通货膨膨胀是货币供应的扩张，而非物价上涨。这些钱无处可去，随着金砖国家宣布内部交易使用本国货币并抛售美元，这些美元必须找到出路。他认为有两种渠道可以缓解恶性通胀：一是加密货币（如比特币），二是战争，后者更为重要。一旦乌克兰战争无法挽回，西方可能会攻击伊朗或台湾，任何一个都可能迅速演变成全球核战争。他引用彭博社的文章指出，市场上涨主要由少数几只人工智能股票带动，英伟达的上涨可能存在可疑交易，甚至是“暴跌保护小组”在制造虚假繁荣。他还提到，华盛顿特区在过去两三年被评为最不宜居的城市，这与疫情前的情况形成鲜明对比，反映出国家和经济的糟糕状况。

丹尼谈到卡车司机因安全问题不愿进入华盛顿特区、旧金山等地。乔治则谈到塔克·卡尔森 (Tucker Carlson) 警告特朗普可能被暗杀以及与俄罗斯爆发热战的言论。他认为2024年极有可能发生疯狂事件，因为乌克兰战争没有和平解决的方案，双方都输不起。如果俄罗斯输了，可能会使用核武器，从而引发北约全面攻击。如果西方输了，北约将瓦解，西方国家可能陷入更彻底的法西斯主义，但即便如此，西方也无法独立于世界其他地区生存，因为它不再生产任何东西。因此，西方唯一的出路可能是用另一场战争取代乌克兰战争，例如针对中国，但这同样可能引发核战争。他认为西方经济已经完蛋，人工智能也无法挽救，中国在芯片技术上的突破进一步削弱了西方的优势。西方剩下的只有大型科技公司，而这些公司很大一部分收入来自政府合同，这正走向大型科技与政府合并的法西斯主义。当经济崩溃，民众失业，西方政府除了残酷镇压异见（可能尝试CBDC）和发动对外战争外，别无选择，否则可能引发内战。他也提到再次利用病毒的可能性，尽管这很愚蠢。

丹尼回忆起有人曾将通胀归咎于普京。乔治则讽刺说，戴上苹果Vision Pro就能忘记这一切。他批评了Facebook Oculus Rift的广告，认为其描绘的未来令人悲哀。他联想到2015年FDA的某个愚蠢决定，让他觉得医疗行业已经完蛋，唯一的出路就是强制消费医疗服务和产品，2020年的疫情正是这种企图的体现。

丹尼询问华盛顿特区是否有人戴口罩。乔治说随处可见，虽然不如疫情期间多，但最近戴口罩的人数明显增加，甚至有人因为他不戴口罩而与他发生口角。丹尼也提到在好市多看到戴口罩人数增多的情况。乔治认为特朗普虽然可能避免核战争，但无法改变经济困境。他提到英特尔和台积电在亚利桑那建厂的“回流”尝试，但认为美国的高工资使得这些工厂生产的产品缺乏价格竞争力。他认为边境移民潮实际上是为了获取廉价劳动力。然而，印钞能力已到极限，恶性通胀迫在眉睫，而恶性通胀通常会导致战争。他引用马克思关于边际利润率下降趋势的理论，认为西方世界盈利能力极低，已无法通过经济活动供养本国人口，因此政府可能会牺牲一部分民众。

乔治认为西方精英已经不在乎民众的感受，因为他们相信无论推行什么政策，总有三分之二的人会接受。各国央行大量购买黄金是另一个不祥之兆。他批评美联储不受审计，其资产负债表、资金来源和去向均不透明，甚至可能在非法货币化债务。美联储主席虽由总统任命，但需由12家地区联储银行投票通过，而这些地区联储银行由私人银行控股，例如纽约联储的前五大股东是美国银行、高盛、摩根大通、花旗集团等。因此，当这些私人银行需要资金时，纽约联储就可以印钞给它们，完全不受控制，而且是秘密进行的。根据法律，美联储需在两年后公布救助银行的名单，但信息披露方式非常隐晦。博客“华尔街游行”(Wall Street on Parade) 揭露了2019年底至2020年中期华尔街银行再次陷入困境，依靠纽约联储大规模印钞才得以幸免的情况。他认为这完全是庞氏骗局，只要民众不知道货币如何创造和使用，这个骗局就能持续下去。

乔治提到他与一位自称“硝酸甘油博士”(Dr. Nitric) 的人在网上发生了争论。乔治发现这位博士拥有一家推广硝酸甘油补充剂的公司。争论的起因是乔治发帖称“硝酸甘油导致自闭症，阻断NO（一氧化氮）可逆转自闭症”，并引用了相关研究。这位博士称乔治曲解数据，但并未提供相反证据。乔治指出，硝酸甘油作为治疗心绞痛的药物，通过提高一氧化氮水平来扩张血管，但斯坦福大学的研究表明，长期服用硝酸甘油会导致更严重甚至致命的心脏病发作。这位博士辩称，问题不在于一氧化氮本身，而是硝酸甘油转化为一氧化氮的过程出了问题，导致对一氧化氮的抵抗。乔治还引用了麦肯 (McCann) 关于“一氧化氮衰老理论”的研究，但这位博士完全无视。丹尼认为这位博士的回应非常典型和可预测，其言论“知识的最大危险不是无知，而是知识的幻觉”极具讽刺意味。乔治认为这位博士可能是为了推销其产品。

关于一氧化氮导致自闭症的机制，乔治解释说，研究发现即使是略高于生理剂量的硝酸甘油对脑细胞也具有很强的毒性，会减少大脑中的蛋白质合成，特别是抑制细胞色素C氧化酶的合成。一氧化氮可以与细胞色素C氧化酶形成共价键，使其永久失活。亚甲蓝、镁和锌可以将其置换出来。这项研究证实了一氧化氮的抗代谢作用对大脑的毒性。丹尼补充说，麦肯的论文指出，一氧化氮会加剧压力系统的各个方面，从前列腺素的产生到CRH、ACTH和肾上腺的激活。乔治认为，医学界专注于一氧化氮的血管舒张作用，而忽视了其其他影响。他认为二氧化碳是更合适的血管舒张剂。一氧化氮是紧急血管舒张剂（在二氧化碳不足时）和对抗病原体的主要防线，但它对正常细胞同样有毒。

接着，他们讨论了大脑自身产生类固醇的研究。长期以来，医学界认为只有性腺和皮肤能产类固醇，但这项研究发现，大脑中将胆固醇转化为孕烯醇酮的第一步并非由侧链裂解酶完成，而是由细胞色素1B1 (CYP1B1) 完成，该酶也参与胆固醇转化为维生素D。研究还证明大脑中存在其他类固醇合成酶，这意味着大脑很可能可以自行产生孕烯醇酮、孕酮、雄激素和糖皮质激素，由于身体每个细胞都表达芳香化酶，大脑也可能产生雌激素。这意味着大脑局部也可能发生“性腺功能减退”，导致保护性类固醇减少，应急性类固醇（如皮质醇和雌激素）升高。乔治认为大脑产生这些类固醇主要是为了控制代谢率和稳定细胞，例如，孕烯醇酮和孕酮是解偶联剂，可以升高大脑温度。他提到《热脑》(The Hot Brain) 一书，强调了大脑高温对维持意识的重要性。他还提到，两足行走可能有助于控制大脑温度。

丹尼谈到他最近订购的维生素K产品 (Quinone)，发现睡前使用效果显著，能让他睡得像婴儿一样。乔治提到最近有研究表明维生素K可以降低人类血压，这印证了雷佩特 (Ray Peat) 早年的说法。当时雷博士曾因建议使用维生素K治疗高血压而受到批评，因为缺乏证据和已知机制。然而，后续研究表明，维生素K可以通过清除血管钙化来改善血管弹性，从而帮助调节血压。维生素K2 (MK-4和MK-7) 即使大剂量使用也不会导致过度凝血。日本批准用于治疗骨质疏松的MK-4 (GLA-KAY) 剂量为每天45毫克，临床试验中曾使用高达135毫克的剂量，未发现严重副作用。乔治认为，任何醌类物质如果能增加氧化磷酸化和克氏循环中二氧化碳的合成，本身就具有血管舒张作用，类似于一氧化氮的效果，但来自二氧化碳。

乔治透露他正在研发一种含有奇数链饱和脂肪酸的新产品，特别是十五碳酸（pentadecanoic acid, C15:0）和十七碳酸（heptadecanoic acid, C17:0，又称margaric acid）。这两种脂肪酸几乎只存在于乳制品中，尤其是冰淇淋和奶酪。圣地亚哥一家名为Fatty15的公司正在销售十五碳酸，并进行了大量研究证明其具有促进代谢、修复线粒体、抗炎和改善认知等多种益处。乔治的产品将同时包含这两种脂肪酸，每种约100毫克，可能溶解在橄榄油或MCT油中，并可能添加生育酚以延长保质期和改善吸收。他提到一项关于海豚的研究，显示十七碳酸可以完全逆转2型糖尿病。

丹尼介绍了他在网上提供的个人和团体辅导服务，并表示团体辅导的效果出乎意料地好，参与者之间可以互相交流信息和经验。乔治认为这种形式类似于最初的团体治疗，旨在帮助人们重新感受人性。他提到雷佩特曾说过，咨询的关键在于与咨询师建立联结，但后来的咨询师培训则倾向于避免这种联结，导致治疗效果不佳。他还引用一项研究表明，安慰剂效应是真实的，取决于患者与医生的信任和联结。

乔治讨论了一篇关于将分子溶解在维生素E中优先靶向大脑的研究，认为这再次印证了雷佩特的观点。研究发现，将药物与维生素E（特别是α-生育酚）混合后，不仅能优先进入大脑，还能优先作用于受损部位。这解释了雷佩特为何将其孕酮产品 (Progest-E) 溶解在维生素E中。这种方法可以用更低的剂量达到更强的效果，从而最大限度地减少副作用。他认为大脑的亲脂性环境以及对特定分子的偏好可能是原因。

他们还讨论了一篇关于维生素D对胃肠道癌症患者是“游戏规则改变者”的研究。尽管研究中使用的维生素D剂量仅为每天2000单位（远低于根据最新计算得出的最佳剂量），但对于结直肠癌、胃癌、食道癌和小肠癌患者，维生素D使复发和死亡率降低了30%以上。乔治认为，如果剂量更高，效果可能会更好。他引用了一个晚期胰腺癌患者的案例，该患者每天服用5万单位维生素D后，癌症完全停止生长，转移灶消失，至今仍健在且完全缓解，并未出现高钙血症。雷佩特曾指出，甲状旁腺激素 (PTH) 是乳酸产生的最强促进剂，而维生素D可以抑制PTH。乔治补充说，对于血钙升高的癌症患者，医生通常建议避免摄入钙，但实际上，摄入钙反而有助于抑制PTH（钙的悖论）。如果研究中同时补充钙，效果可能会更显著。

乔治讨论了一项关于压力、损伤、线粒体功能障碍、去分化甚至癌症的研究。研究表明，增加活性氧 (ROS) 的产生足以使细胞去分化，反之，减少过量ROS则能使细胞重新分化。这与主流医学观点（化疗放疗通过产生ROS杀死癌细胞，抗氧化剂会降低疗效）形成对比。乔治指出，ROS的产生主要源于线粒体功能受损时的逆向电子流，而非正常功能时。氧化脂肪、甲状腺功能低下、高皮质醇或高雌激素等都会导致逆向电子流和大量ROS产生。生酮饮食圈子也承认氧化脂肪会产生大量ROS，但认为这是“兴奋效应”。这项研究表明，ROS是细胞去分化的主要因素，限制ROS可以促进再分化，这印证了奥托·瓦尔堡 (Otto Warburg) 的观点：任何干扰氧气利用的因素最终都会导致疾病。乔治强调，不存在所谓的“癌细胞”，所有细胞的行为都取决于环境。

最后，他们讨论了帕金森病与肠道健康的关系。一项研究表明，肠道神经系统与中枢神经系统通过迷走神经等途径持续交流，帕金森病患者普遍存在严重的消化系统紊乱。研究人员通过给予小鼠鱼藤酮（一种线粒体复合物I抑制剂，已知是帕金森病的环境风险因素）来损害其肠道神经系统细胞，成功诱发了帕金森病。这直接证明了抑制氧化磷酸化会导致帕金森病。更重要的是，如果同时给予这些细胞生理浓度的孕酮（仅10纳摩尔/升），细胞死亡率降低了50%以上。这表明，即使是少量孕酮（特别是溶解在维生素E中），也可能有效预防和治疗帕金森病。乔治认为，孕酮的促代谢作用抵消了鱼藤酮的抗代谢作用。由于内毒素也是一种代谢抑制剂，这项研究间接证明了内毒素是帕金森病的直接原因。因此，保持肠道通畅非常重要。

对话结束时，乔治提到他将在下周一接受Mercola博士的采访。他还提到一位医生想与他电话交流。丹尼开玩笑问是不是“硝酸甘油博士”。他们还简短讨论了与Grimhood进行辩论的可能性，乔治表示如果只是为了娱乐和挑起争端则不太情愿，但如果是为了澄清分歧则可以考虑。

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Okay, Generative Energy 103 with Georgie Dinkov. And I was just explaining to Georgie and the chat that the first six months of this year were very bad because I had two dogs and didn't get any sleep. And then Georgie was telling me how difficult it was to have children.

Correct. And a spouse and two jobs and customers who email me 24 seven. Yeah, dude, I don't know. I honestly, the guy that gave me those dogs, if I knew what the cost would be like, I don't know if I would have taken it would have been. I mean, so again, this is from a dog person who's never had any not a not a dog person that has no experience.

It was really challenging. They would bark all night. It was absolutely crazy. But nobody needs to cry, shed a tear for me. Go ahead. They're quite delicious. I'm here from some Korean friends. That's a bad… If shit ever hits the fan, really. And you have like some walking calories around you. That's a bad stereotype, Georgie. We all know that Koreans don't eat dogs. No. No.

Definitely not. I mean, I have a friend here in D.C. who basically travels back to Korea specifically for that purpose. Jesus Christ, I didn't know that. Okay, so how is Bulgaria? I guess about the same. I mean, it's just now everybody's on edge there, I think, as I said last time, because the war is hitting too close to home.

So, you know, if anything grows, if the war expands in any way, it will probably be Romania and Bulgaria and Poland that will be like thrown in next. So the periphery of NATO, basically. And since we're just, you know, a cannon fodder, several NATO higher ranking members have already said this off the record. Everybody in Bulgaria kind of, you know, knows that and expects it. So they're, you know, afraid that…

This thing has no solution, as you and I have talked many times. And when the escalation comes, and I think everybody, at least in Eastern Europe, thinks escalation will come, these smaller peripheral countries will be the first to be thrown under the bus. Same with the Baltic countries too. Like people are feeling it in what way, or they're just getting nervous that this thing is not over yet?

Oh, I mean, it's basically Bulgaria, you know, so Bulgaria officially, the population of Bulgaria is anti-war. They don't want to be, they don't want to go to war with Russia. But behind the scenes, the government being very, very pro-NATO and actually handpicked

by foreign embassies. There was a scandal recently. I don't even know why it was considered a scandal. Well, basically, it turned out that the elections in Bulgaria are completely fake. I think a lot of people realize the same thing is here, right? But it's just not as obvious. So in Bulgaria, basically, they had the prime minister go on the record, and I think he knew that he was being recorded, saying that there's no head of an intelligence agency in Bulgaria or any kind of a law enforcement agency or government

official in general that does not get pre-approved by XYZ embassies. And those XYZ embassies were the U.S. embassy, the U.K. embassy, and the German embassy.

And basically, like he kind of said on record, it's like, I don't even know why you bother voting. It just doesn't matter. We will put there whoever the powers that be want us to put there. And your vote doesn't matter. You know, it's completely pointless. Well, the good news is Gavin Newsom is not running for president. So he says, did you see that article? I saw that. But, you know, I'm not sure this is good news or bad news. Can you imagine Kamala Harris getting elected?

I would love that. I would love if that happened. That would just accelerate us towards Judgment Day. Exactly. Some kind of a resolution, right? Yeah. Well, you sent me these articles, and we're getting right back into the black pill. Doom porn, as they call it on Zero Hedge. Well, WW3 has already begun. Ukraine's security chief, you sent this to me, so…

I guess, I mean, there's a common, I mean, that's what you would say, right? That it's already begun. - Didn't you see the incident today? A Polish helicopter basically violated Belarus' airspace several times. - No, I didn't see it. - And then there was this drone, Russian drone that basically, they hit a target in Ukraine and then some debris apparently landed in Romania. So first Romania, and Romania is a NATO member. Obviously, if something like that happens, it will be grounds for activating Article 5.

So Romania initially denied this. And then basically, I think it's funny. I think their politicians are also picked by specific embassies because the president, after saying categorically that this is not actually even a drone, they don't know what this debris is from.

Within 24 hours, he changed his story completely, went on TV and said, yes, definitely Russian, definitely a drone. And then, you know, I think now they're starting to slowly, you know, backtrack from that story. Bottom line is basically these are, you know, obvious attempts at escalation.

And forget what the Ukraine security chief is saying. It's just incidents like this that will probably lead to the actual, some kind of a false flag or an event that will be used as a official reason to get into, to activate Article 5. And by the way, they don't even need that. Remember the Gulf of Tonkin incident? It was completely fake.

And that was, what, 50 years ago? What's to prevent them from doing something like that these days? With technology being much more advanced, it would be much easier for them to fake an event like that. They may even be able to create a hologram and make it very realistic and broadcast it all over the internet and everybody will think, hey, that's the real deal. I also want that to happen. So speaking of something you can't fake, the…

situation we all find ourselves in with uh finances getting tighter well so i mean is not wasn't ray completely right in 2020 he said he basically predicted all this stuff that was going to happen so we're three years in the war seems to be intensifying you called that like maybe was it 2021 or 2022 um markets seem down like what are your thoughts on that

I mean, whatever you see the market going up is complete speculation. It's still the printed money that's in the economy. That money has not been taken out of the economy.

Contrary to what people think, inflation is not increasing prices. Inflation is the expansion of the money supply. And by that measure, which is the classic measure, we've basically had what, doubling, tripling the money supply. So that's really, that's your inflation. How long it will take to trickle down and manifest into prices, it really depends on things like interest rate or maybe if there's a war abroad and things like that. So that's probably what's kind of like holding the inflation back so far.

But this money has nowhere to go. And now with BRICS officially announcing their currency for internal transactions and dumping the dollar, these dollars have to go somewhere. So either the war has to expand. It's really very practical, even though it's completely psychopathic. Basically, in order for the empire to survive financially, this avalanche of fake money has to go somewhere.

And the only place where you can go where basically it will prevent hyperinflation from occurring, actually really two channels. One, cryptocurrency. And I think Bitcoin is a bit of a – all the other cryptocurrencies are a bit of a channel for that, relieving the kind of like a pressure valve on hyperinflation. And the second is war, but the second being really more important.

So once the war in Ukraine turns out to be unsalvageable in the way that the West wants it to be, I think we're going to either see some kind of an attack on Iran or, God forbid, Taiwan. And any of these, Ukraine including, can very quickly turn into a hot global nuclear war. Mm-hmm.

So as far as the finances are, I mean, like, I don't know if you saw the article and it was in Bloomberg, which said that everybody thinks the market is having a rally. Actually, the market is down significant for the year, except for like two or three stocks that have to do with AI. So it's really a classic example of hype. And now I think they caught,

the Nvidia stock, which was kind of like leading this entire rally. There are some suspicious transactions related to who exactly is buying that stock and kind of causing this fake rally. So it may turn out to be the Plunge Protection team again. Basically, they're creating a fake rally by buying up the stock. There's no healthy economic activity. Oh, another piece of news that came out, I think two days ago, DC was ranked as the least desirable city to move in or to live in.

over the last two or three years. Just type it in Google, type DC ranked least desirable to live. And that's a big downfall. Just five years ago, just before the pandemic, it was ranked like top one or two as the most desirable place to go to.

So no matter what you're being told on the TV, how robust the economy is, everything is fine, you know, if this is becoming the least desirable place to be, what does that tell you about the country and the economy in general? Things are most certainly not going well. I think I was reading the – I think that was posted on Zero Hedge, and somebody was saying that they –

or like a trucker or something and they wouldn't even go into dc or something because they they said they'd get mugged or something and the same with san francisco and then same with um one other place like here maybe baltimore or something um so tucker is a little zogged out but uh tucker warns of trump assassination hot war with russia like what if you according to your fan fiction what do you think would happen uh i i mean is it unreasonable to say that 2024 is a likely year that some crazy will happen

Not likely. I mean, there's no way out. I mean, that's what I keep telling people. It's like I keep asking people, give me a scenario that ends the Ukraine war or just gets everything back to normal without this escalating into a war. You can't. Neither side can lose this war. Neither side. If Russia loses this war, obviously Russia will fall apart. They've already said that if they feel threatened, they will use nuclear weapons, right? So the moment they use nuclear weapons, even if only on the Ukraine territory, they will be considered grounds for…

for basically activating the entire NATO and attacking Russia full on. The West cannot lose this war. I think we know this very well. NATO will collapse and probably most of the Western countries. So one possible solution is Ukraine loses, basically the West kind of loses the war, but descends into full on fascism, very hardcore, not very different from what we have right now, but basically all pretense of democracy will disappear. Brutal censorship,

Jailing of political opponents, probably assassination, kind of like what happened in Latin America in the 70s and 80s under the military juntos. And then basically for most normies, quote unquote, they won't know what actually happened.

But I don't think even that will continue for too long because simply the West cannot survive without the rest of the world simply because the West doesn't produce anything anymore. And even if it descends into full-on dictatorship, it'll still be dependent on outside world. If the outside world doesn't want to trade with the West or do business with the West, then the West is doomed anyways. And so, yeah, so basically the West cannot lose this war.

And the only thing I think the West can do is, the only substitute they can have is if they replace the Ukraine war with another war, one more global or potentially more remote in China, but China is a nuclear power. And you start attacking Taiwan or a nuke or two land on China, I don't think China is going to hold back from, I don't know, incinerating the Western coast of the United States. And the nukes have long enough range to actually reach any city in the United States, so it doesn't really matter.

And with China and Russia now allied militarily, you're basically looking at not taking on a single nuclear, super nuclear power, but two of them. So really, I just don't see what the solution out of this can be. Economically, the West is done. It's finished.

AI is a complete, I don't want to say disaster, but it's laughable. Yeah, sure, it will replace a lot of jobs, but only because these jobs were useless to start with. It's not really something that will generate something that will give the West some kind of competitive advantage and they'll jump leaps and bounds above and beyond what China has. Did you see the news about the chip?

Basically, after the US imposed the sanctions on Huawei and all the Chinese companies from using some of the latest chip technology, China apparently in a matter of – they probably had it under development anyways. But within a few days, they made this announcement, and now the latest Huawei phone has a chip that basically rivals the latest one in the iPhone, completely home-developed.

And the response from the West was, well, you violated the sanctions. What sanctions? One Chinese company sold technology to another Chinese company. What sanctions are you talking about? Well, that's unfair. That's unfair competition. Well, tough titties.

That's how the game is played. So all of these sanctions, once again, as we've seen in Ukraine, are having the exact opposite effect. And basically now, China has been, by being forced into the corner, China now has completely homegrown technology sector, which rivals China.

even at the chip level, the Western one. And that was probably the one remaining discriminator that the West had that was still kind of like, you know, being more advanced than China. So I don't know.

I just don't see what the West can do economically. It has nothing left industrially. All it has is big tech. But as we know, big tech, actually, if you look at big tech's budget, like a good chunk of it actually comes from government contracts. So ultimately, we are on our way to full-on fascism, the merging of big tech with government, which is…

More or less already has happened functionally, just not structurally yet, or at least officially. And once the economy is down the drain and nobody's really employed in a productive activity, I don't see what else the West can do except the two options. First, brutal crackdown on any dissent because they don't want the whole system to collapse.

And maybe CBDCs will be tried at that point. And two, war abroad, because even with a crackdown at home, first you risk a civil war. And I think even the elite doesn't want that yet. It's because they can get burned in that too. Two,

even with the brutal fascism and crackdown, you can't hide the fact that the West is economically finished. So the only way to conceal that is basically by launching a major war somewhere, and then you can blame everything on the war. Either that or, I don't know, it would be stupid to try the virus thing again, but

I wouldn't put anything beyond them. So maybe that's option number three. Oh, that was Putin's inflation. Remember? They were trying to blame that on him. Yeah, Putin's price tag, price hike or whatever. Yeah, Putin's inflation. But you know what? All you have to do is actually put on the Apple Vision Pro and you'll just forget about all this. I know. Yeah, exactly.

Or the Facebook, what is it? The Oculus or whatever that thing is called. Oculus Rift, I think. Did you see the commercial? It was so sad. Like a dad having this thing on and surrounded by his children. And he wouldn't even take this off to greet the children. He would just look at them through this ridiculous thing attached to his head. And I'm thinking, man, if that's the future…

You don't even need to advertise it because it's like nobody will voluntarily do that. But then I started thinking a long time on the forum. I think it was circa 2015. I forgot what it was, but it was something so utterly stupid that came out of the FDA that I thought the medical profession is done. The only way these people can continue making money is if they somehow mandate the consumption of medical services and products. And that's exactly what we had in this attempt in 2020. Wow.

I want to get to the stupidity of the medical profession and you had a close interaction with somebody. Oh, okay. We'll get to that later. I do want to ask you if in DC, are you seeing people in masks? Like it does seem like this is some. Oh yeah. You know, everywhere. It's not as much as, you know, obviously during the pandemic, but,

There are people out there, especially in the stores. A few of them basically accosted me over me not wearing a mask. Recently? No, I mean, other people are not wearing masks too, but I think I attract a special kind of attention, basically, because I don't particularly like people like that with the masks running around. So I probably give them a bad look, and then they give me a bad look back, and then we have an exchange.

Yeah, that happened to me too. But I was asking, since kind of they've been stoking the flame here of this new, the new variants, have you, because I went to Costco and probably,

I know the last few months I've seen no masks and we just went maybe two days ago and there were lots of masks. Yeah, same increase, definitely, definitely increase in masks. I would say somewhere in between, between, you know, you know, I would say last year, late last year when almost nobody was wearing a mask and the peak of the pandemic being, you know, the people with the most masks. Now, now we're kind of, you know, halfway in between.

Yeah, this guy kind of got us into this mess. And so it's Trump. I mean, he kind of allowed it to happen. Yeah, I think, you know, he's a I mean, I guess like he thought that as a president, he can have other people around the country. He'll just sit there and I can give speeches. But, you know, Fauci and all the others that were around him, the deep state snakes, that's all they needed in order to mess things up. I don't know.

I don't want to completely rob people of hope, but if Trump is tomorrow elected, what can he possibly do to change things overnight? I think the one thing that he can and probably will do that will be great is prevent complete annihilation of humanity by avoiding nuclear war. And that's huge, obviously. Nobody wants to die. He could sip the toxic waste out of the Ohio River. Yeah.

But as far as the economic situation, which I think is the underlying reason we are in this mess to start with, I don't see what Trump can do. I mean, there have been some attempts at reshoring, as they call it. Intel is building a big plant facility

um, for chips in Arizona. And I think the TSMC, the Taiwanese company is now building another plan. I think also in Arizona, but the problem is these are attempted reshoring some of the, you know, some of the high tech, uh, production, um, in the United States. The problem is with the salaries of the United States, whatever you produce in these plants is not going to be price competitive. So I think that's why we're seeing a lot of, a lot of this migration coming into the border because migration has always been, uh,

as we know is basically slave labor and people that will be willing to work for very small wages provided that they're given, I don't know, access to citizenship and like free medical care and whatnot, whatever the government does. But even if the government pays for it, this money has to come from somewhere.

And now we're at the end of the ability to print more money, lest we run into a hyperinflation situation. If we run into a hyperinflation situation, then again, the West is economically done. And usually in a situation like that, wars break out. There was actually Marx…

in my opinion, greatest prediction. He said there's this thing called the tendency of the marginal profit rate to decline. So he said that basically the competition and the prices do not go down because of competition, but actually the going down of prices

It's what causes the competition and ultimately wars, either domestic or international. So we're kind of seeing that here. Basically, the profitability is so low at this point in the Western world and everything that could have possibly been outsourced has already been outsourced that there's little that the West can do in terms of economic activity that can support its own population.

So from a very pragmatic, though psychopathic point of view, yes, the governments basically took a look at their aging population, the majority of which is non-productive or at least not employed in productive activity and said, we can't support you people. Sorry, plebs, you know, we're going to call you. And I know a lot of people don't want to hear that, but what do you do as a government, as a, you know, deep state employee?

There's no ethics here. There's no morale. It's just pure pragmatics, pure numbers. They're saying, we like to keep this country the way it is, but with the current budget and the current finances, because we gave all the money to the elite, there is not enough for the plebs. So plebs, you either accept drastically reduced standards of living and or they're not mutually exclusive, a good portion of you get caught.

Well, yeah, if you were trying to transition people into a new system that they wouldn't, they had to be fooled into enjoying, you know, you'd probably just want to get rid of a significant amount of them to not have to deal with it. You know, I just don't think they care anymore. What do we enjoy or not? The feeling that a combination of desperation plus confidence that, you know, no matter what they shove down our throats, two thirds of the people will say, yes, give me more. Yeah.

So, and then these banks buying up tons of gold. It's just their move. That's another sign. I mean, basically, like, don't read what the politicians are saying. Look at what the banks are doing. And the Bank of China, I think, you know, a lot of the Western European central banks, a lot of them are buying up gold. I don't know if the Federal Reserve is buying gold, but…

Well, I don't know. They claim they have a ton of it in Fort Knox, but every time Rand Paul—not Rand Paul, Ron Paul—wanted to do an audit of the Fed or an audit of Fort Knox, he got shot down by his colleagues, both Republicans and Democrats. Mm-hmm.

really shows you this the unit party there's only one party there um and you know he never you know he never got got around to you know getting this moving even though remember the fed has never been audited nobody knows what's on the balance sheet of the fed where the money is coming where the money is coming from where is it going is the fed monetizing the debt which is illegal by the way under the u.s constitution nobody knows because there's no audit so

So you have an organization that is, you know, the only commitment that they have to the U.S. government is that I think the Fed chair is appointed by the president, but he has to be voted in or she has to be voted in by the 12 regional Fed banks, right? The chairs of the Fed banks. So it's this organization that is not subject to any audit or control. They can do whatever they want.

And by the way, they're owned, obviously, because the regional banks are owned by private banks. So for example, the New York Fed, the five largest shareholders of that Fed are Bank of America, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Citigroup, and I think used to be Lehman Brothers, but Lehman Brothers is no longer there. So when the New York Fed decides to print money and give it to the private banks, all

there is no control over it. And basically the question is like, so how does the New York Fed decide that it needs to bring money? Well, shareholders still are stupid. They say, “Hey, we're dying, we need more money.” So this organization is supposed to regulate you, but you're owning it because you're a shareholder in the organization.

decides to print money and give you money basically completely unaccountable and in fact secretly. I think there was that act, the Glass-Steagall Act or the one that got passed in 2010 after the Great Financial Recession, whatever it's called. So basically the Fed has to publish the banks that have been in distress and have taken money from the Fed, but the law says there's a two-year delay.

So basically now we can get printouts and they publish it in a very cryptic way so you can really decipher easily which banks are getting what and how bad their financial situation is. But there's this blog called Wall Street on Parade. If you go and check it out, they publish a lot of good stuff there. So now we're getting information that basically of what happened to the banks back in September of 2021.

And if you look at the stuff that they've been publishing from October of 2019 to like mid 2020, basically all the Wall Street banks were in slow vote again. And the only thing that saved them was the massive money printing, mostly by the New York Fed. And what spurred that decision?

the shareholders, the banks still underwater, said, give us more money. But it's really strange. This money is being printed out of thin air and given to the banks completely risk-free and interest-free. And when they have to pay it back, they rolled over again at the zero rate. But that's not at the rate that you're getting loans, right? So that's how the banks make money. And really, there's no end to this charade. It's really a Ponzi scheme. There's no end to this as long as people are kept into the dark is how money is being created and what it's being used for. The Fed and its

12 regional banks are completely unaccountable to anybody in reality. Maybe on paper, but show me an audit of any of these banks, including the Federal Reserve itself, and then we can talk about it. That's the opinion of also the Wall Street on Parade people. And these are investment bankers who spent 40 years on Wall Street dealing precisely with shenanigans like this. - Got it. General Energy might have its first sponsor ever, but I'll save that for later.

Okay, I'm going to skip these Google censorship articles. We can talk about those another time. I do want to talk about this. And so shout out to Joey for telling me about this. I didn't even know it happened, but I love this exchange.

Oh, with the nitric oxide doctor? Yeah, Dr. Nitric. Did you check him? Did you check that he has a company that pushes nitric oxide supplements? I mean, I'm not surprised. Why would we be so gung-ho about nitric oxide unless he has something, he has some kind of skin in the game? That's what happens if I was Danny Cortisol. I think it would be a big problem. But anyway, so give me a breakdown here. You post nitric oxide causes autism blocking, no reverses autism,

And the funny thing is- Somebody else engaged him, basically said, like started providing information. I don't know why. Oh, he said there's a classic example of misrepresentation of data, right? But it's like, once again, it's not me saying these things. I'm actually quoting-

the study and these are also doctors right so you may dislike georgie all you want but if georgie is simply quoting a study which says nitric oxide causes autism and actually they did block the nitric oxide synthase and then they reversed all the symptoms of autism then it's very little room for argument here unless you can present data that shows the exact opposite of

Of course, which he didn't do. He says, Mr. Presentation, and other people started jumping on him and saying like, hey, how about this? How about that? And then he kept basically saying that the classic answer is either you're a layman or I'm not even going to bother.

trying to explain such complicated and convoluted things to laymen, right? Or misrepresentation. Those are the answers. Usually the doctors that don't want to see the evidence, the contrarian evidence, that's how they shut you down. So we kept exchanging these messages. And every single time I sent him something, like especially the nitroglycerin. So that's a classic example.

of nitric oxide being actually bad for the very thing that it's actually prescribed for. Nitroglycerin is one of the oldest drugs for angina. It's a nitrate, so it's a precursor to nitric oxide. And because of its vasodilation properties, it's been prescribed since the 1960s, if not even earlier, as a treatment for angina because it raises nitric oxide, vasodilates, and then you get less chest pain. However,

There's a study from Stanford, which shows that if you take nitroglycerin chronically, you get much worse and actually deadlier heart attacks. So I said, do you care to explain why this taking nitroglycerin would worsen cardiovascular outcome? And he said, nitroglycerin is not nitric oxide.

Thank you. And I said, are you serious? Yeah. Smart. Yeah. Of course it's not. So, so I said, are you serious that, you know, that's it's one known mechanism of action is nitric oxide elevation. And then he says, no, it's not nitric oxide to blame. It's the conversion of nitroglycerin to nitric oxide that goes astray. And this causes resistance to nitric oxide somehow. And that's really why nitroglycerin nitroglycerin is bad. Uh,

And then I had other studies. I basically found out, he said, I think he concluded by saying, oh, you guys keep doing anti-nitric oxide stuff. I'll keep doing the nitric oxide stuff and let's see who lives longer. And then I immediately just, you just type it in Google, arginine lifespan, like nitric oxide lifespan. I think you remember the study that I posted on the forum a long time ago. It was called the nitric oxide theory of aging. Oh yeah, by McCann. Yeah. Yeah.

I kept posting all these things. He ignored me completely. And eventually somebody said on that thread, they took a picture of his head and said, judging by your foreline, I think we're going to outlive you or something. I highlight it because of how typical it was. You really nailed it. Each one of his responses was very predictable. And this was the… I can't remember where it was…

It's something like the greatest danger to knowledge is not ignorance, but rather an illusion of knowledge. Like that's how ironic. And I think the response to that, if you click on this, I think there's somebody that said, well, way too out yourself is the most ignorance.

example of his species or something along those lines. This might be a bot or something. This is so bad. No, it's not a bot. The account may be a bot, but this doctor, if you Google him, you'll see that he has a company peddling elevation of nitric oxide. I forgot if it was through supplements or inhalation or injections, but he has a nitric oxide boosting company.

Well, speaking of the actual initial article, how does nitric oxide cause autism? Oh, yeah. I got some response about it, too. They said, well, it's because it's vasodilation. And if you vasodilate too much, you can basically, what did they say? They can create like a shock type of situation in the brain, which is true. Mm-hmm.

That's why methylene blue is used as an anti-shock treatment because it opposes nitric oxide. However, the mechanism of action that they found was actually that nitric oxide, even in slightly super physiological doses, was toxic, very, very toxic to the brain cells and decreased the synthesis, basically decreased protein synthesis in the brain. So it really means that if you get brain cells dying,

I know medicine doesn't want to admit that the brain cells can be renewed, but they can, unless you have something toxic like nitric oxide. And unfortunately, they didn't talk about its anti-metabolic effect. But if you look at the proteins whose synthesis nitric oxide inhibits,

They all depend on cytochrome C oxidase. And we know that nitric oxide can bind with cytochrome C oxidase and can form a covalent bond, which means it deactivates it permanently, unless you either knock it out of there or new cytochrome C oxidase is synthesized. The latter process has been very slow. So what can knock it out of there? Methylene blue, magnesium, and zinc, three that are known to do it.

In other words, the study kind of confirmed that nitric oxide's anti-metabolic effects are very, very toxic to the brain, which is not surprising, as we know that the brain is the most sensitive to energetic disturbances since it consumes about 40% of your calories. So it was a direct nitric oxide effect. It wasn't due to its vasodilation effects or any of the other ones that are being described. We're getting a little hiccups in the stream, but…

Yeah, I mean, no, you're fine. So I apologize, but we'll just have to go through it. And this is recorded so we can always upload it later. But yeah, and that McCann paper, which we've probably talked about dozens of times, he basically, there isn't any part of the stress system that nitric oxide does not intensify from the production of prostaglandins to the activation of CRH, to the activation of ACTH, activation of the adrenals. Like, it just seems like…

I don't know what research these people are reading, but you have to be really ignorant to how you have to be really focused on like health outcomes or like that kind of fraudulent type of scientific thing and not think about how it's interacting in the body. I think it's, but that's exactly what they do is medicine is specialized, right? They're reductionists. So once they, once they latch onto the idea that nitric oxide is vasodilatory, which it is, and then the, any kind of ischemia problem is due to like,

insufficient vasodilation or blocked artery, right? Then you're saying, I don't care about anything else. If nitric oxide vasodilates and if constricted arteries are the problem, then this means nitric oxide solves the problem. The hell with all of you. Yeah. So what would a more appropriate thing do you think would be like carbogen or CO2, something like that? CO2, yeah. CO2 is, I mean, nitric oxide is the emergency vasodilator, two roles, emergency vasodilator

if you don't have enough carbon dioxide. And two, it's basically the main first line defense against exogenous pathogens. Even endogenous ones, too. Any kind of a bacterial virus or fungi gets into your bloodstream, and inos immediately gets activated to basically produce nitric oxide, which is the reactive nitrogen species, which is much more toxic than the reactive oxygen species. And that's what the body synthesizes in order to kill these invading pathogens. But

It's just as it's because since they're leaving things to accept for the virus, just as it's toxic to the fungi and the bacteria, it's also toxic to your normal cells as well. Got it. Yeah, guys, I know it's hiccuping. We'll just have to push through it. I can't change the bit right on the fly. OK, we'll have to go to the next article here. Or do you want to talk about the brain making steroids? Because I actually thought that was pretty interesting.

Yeah, so basically for a long time it's been known that things like pregnenolone, progesterone, and in some cases estrogen, if you have a pathological, neurological condition, the concentrations of these is much higher in the brain.

And for a very long time, medicine said the only stereogenic organs are the gonads and the skin. Anything else, like there's really no evidence for that. And they justified it by saying that by looking for the side chain cleavage enzyme in different organs. And they said it's not there. So you can't have the production of all of these steroids locally unless you have the first step, which is necessary to convert cholesterol into pregnenolone.

And then they said, so this means that basically this accumulation of all these steroids is occurring somewhere, I mean, the synth is occurring somewhere else, then it's just getting transported to the brain, that's why they're accumulating there. So this study basically said, found that the first step

In the brain only, specifically, the first step from pregnenolone to cholesterol, I'm sorry, from cholesterol to pregnenolone, it's not done by the side chain cleavage enzyme. It's done by something called cytochrome 1B1. I think cytochrome P1B1 is the actual enzyme. And basically, that is the enzyme, I think, that is also involved in converting cholesterol into vitamin D.

And one of the steps. So that's what converts cholesterol to pregnenolone. And from there on, they also demonstrated that the presence of at least two or three different enzymes that are down the steroid chain, which means that in all likelihood, the brain can produce its own pregnenolone and progesterone, its own androgens and its own glucocorticoids.

And then as far as the estrogens, I think Ray said several times, and I've seen quotes in other places, saying that every cell in the body expresses aromatase, which means the brain is a complete stereogenic organ, which conversely means that if there is some kind of a…

hypogonadism in the brain, let's say localized to the brain, you get the exact same synthesis you're getting systemically for hypogonadism, which means loss of the protective steroids and elevation of the emergency steroids, such as cortisol and estrogen.

So you think the brain making pregnenolone, progesterone, DHEA, et cetera, is that mainly for like ordering water in the cells of the brain, like to stabilize cells, do you think? In controlling the metabolic rate, basically the DHEA, the progesterone, they're in couplers. So basically if the temperature of the brain falls…

usually people experience like a shivering reaction, but if they measure, sometimes they measure the temperature and it's not elevated yet. They still feel like this, the shiver, right? Which means that probably the brain, what it's doing is raising its own temperature by increasing the sense of these steroids, because really it's the temperature of the brain that's crucial to keeping you conscious. I mean, you drop the temperature of the brain sufficiently and you're going into hibernation.

There's a book called The Hot Brain, and I leveraged it when I was writing an article. But it's it's pretty, pretty solid book. It's called The Hot Brain, Survival Temperature and the Human Body. And they're basically saying our evolutionary achievement was a hot brain. And so to negate that with lower jumping in a cold river or something for in the name of health is…

It gets pretty funny. But yeah. Okay. So I think that's also one of the explanations for why we are bipedal versus all the other animals that are walking on all fours. Oh, yeah. It allows easier control of the brain temperature. So basically you dissipate, I think, less heat and then more can stay for the brain. Oh, wow. I didn't know that. So you're saying my dogs aren't that intelligent when they try to eat my chickens and things? Well, if you put their heads into a pressure cooker and you heat it up…

Oh no, okay. Oh no, is our stream stopped? This is not good. Cash is full. Okay, I guess we'll just have to keep… Who's cash? It's my ATEM unit. This is crazy. You know what I think it is? I think it's throttling from my ISP because it really doesn't make any sense. I'm really not using that much of the bandwidth. The Federales are watching, Danny. You thought you're going to escape the empire in Mexico. No, it's the backyard of the empire.

I don't know how to work on it, but we'll just keep going because we're recording locally. I apologize to the people watching the stream. Okay, well, why don't we do a little advertisement for ID Labs? So when you were in Bulgaria, I actually ordered coinone and I should have emailed you, but I ordered two bottles. I probably would have ordered 10, but…

Yeah, man, I use that stuff. We had a limit because like I was in Bulgaria and there was a limit of the inventory. So now we've lifted it. It's not 10 bottles, but I think you can do like five or something. That's what I figured. So it was just a bad time to order. But yeah.

I've been using that every night before bed. I put on my… Put about 30 drops, so hopefully, possibly the equivalent of six milligrams or so. And dude, I put it on and I get extremely tired. And with progesterone and DHEA… I sleep like a baby with vitamin K. Yeah, it's one of the things that's become more indispensable, especially for my six months of…

Did you see the article? It's actually one of the things that I posted recently that it lowers blood pressure in humans. Oh, yeah. That must have been one of the topics that I kept getting. I've been getting emails for years about this. And I think even Ray caught some heat because of that. But he said like there was no, even on the Petarian website, remember there was this guy, DeWitt was the guy who was defending Ray. And there were a bunch of detractors saying like,

I have never seen any evidence about vitamin K ever lowering blood pressure, nor is there any known mechanism for which it can do that. And then Ray gave a couple of case studies or like reports saying that, you know, he knows a person of a person from firsthand who took like, I think the first time 200 milligrams or something was a really hefty dose. His blood pressure immediately fell down. And then after that, basically normalized.

And I know there's a published case study with MK7, not MK4, MK7, causing actually dangerous hypotension in this woman that took it. And then there's, of course, there's more recent studies showing that vitamin K can decalcify the blood vessels, which means it can allow them to expand at will much more easily, and the body can regulate the blood pressure more easily because of that. I think, to me, that's the main mechanism of action.

Got it. Yeah, I think Ray had mentioned on one of the interviews that somebody was asking him about hypertension. And he said at the time, the thorn was like basically the only vitamin K product. And he said to do a dropper for hypertension. But I mean, I don't need much convincing because it's so obvious. I can't count the number of emails that I've gotten that basically have used that statement of Ray's as evidence that he's a charlatan. This is like…

You know, he could have said taurine or he could have said, I don't know, something, a vitamin E or something, vitamin D. But why did he say vitamin K? The one thing that has no evidence about this in regards to blood pressure and there's no known mechanism. It turns out there is.

Doesn't it affect aldosterone? So wouldn't the mechanism be pretty plausible? I don't know. But also, like any quinone, if it increases the oxidative phosphorylation and the synthesis of CO2 in the Krebs cycle, that by itself will basically be vasodilatory, and you're going to get essentially the nitric oxide effect, but from carbon dioxide.

So that's another mechanism of vaccine. Anything prometabolic is likely to, depending on basically how hypothyroid you are, initially, if you're very hypothyroid, it may raise your blood pressure. But over time, as your health normalizes, then blood pressure should come down. It's not good to have chronically low blood pressure. That's usually a sign of a heart problem.

- Got it, got it, okay. - A lot of people think that having like a 90 by 60 is really like a gift from heaven. They can drink all the caffeine and smoke all the cigarettes and do all these crazy things because they have so much room to raise the blood pressure to your butt.

a vast majority of these people eventually find out that they have like a heart valve problem. Just the heart just can't pump hard enough in order to supply the periphery with blood. And in people like that, they usually have problems with peripheral neuropathy and sometimes even gangrene because they're in a state of like a semi-shock. Because the heart is weak, you cannot get the blood to the peripheral, really the distant tissues, and they're getting severe problems there and even necrosis.

Got it. I mean, I was trying to do an advertisement for ID labs and then you took it into useful information territory. You know, how dare you, George, but, uh, Philip does say, uh, can you ask about blood clotting with excess vitamin K? So it doesn't vitamin K have pro and anti-clotting. It does not cause accessible coding, but except potentially K1, uh,

I think there's some older studies showing that if you overdo K1, there may be an issue with chlorine, but I think it was only in people that had a problem with their liver. So if you have a problem with your liver, chances are you'll be already prone to chlorine.

So in that case, and it was only K1. K2, MK4, and K2, MK7 are not known to basically cause hypercoagulation, even in very massive doses. There was a study when they were about to approve MK4, which is known as GLA-K, G-L-A-K-A-Y in Japan. It's a prescription drug. So when they were running clinical trials to find out the optimal dosage, they also did a clinical trial for safety.

So the dosage that they use now for osteoporosis in Japan is 45 milligrams daily.

But they used up to three times that dosage, which is 135 milligrams daily, I think for up to a year. There were no side effects except mild GI disturbances, but zero effects on the blood system and the coagulations. And they looked very closely for that because they were afraid it's going to do something like that. So I don't think you're going to become hypercoagulatory if you're taking extra vitamin K, except potentially K1, which I just don't recommend people use that.

Anyways, I think we better to take MK7 to take K1. And what are you working on right now? Any new products or any studies or anything? Yeah, there is a part. I mean, they have the raw materials here. I just don't have enough time to release it yet. It turns out that the odd chain saturated fatty acids are really, really beneficial. Specifically, the odd chain ones. The even chain are good too, but the odd chain fatty acids, especially the ones with 15 carbon

chain length and 17. In other words, pentadecanoic acid and heptadecanoic acid are really, really beneficial. And in fact, there's a company out in San Diego that's selling the pentadecanoic acid, the 15 carbon one. If you go to Google and type fatty15, F-A-T-T-Y 1-5 dot com, there's a company that sells that, just that fatty acid. And they've done a lot of research on the fact that this fatty acid is extremely prometabolic.

somehow repairs damaged mitochondria, basically raises your metabolic rate. It has a very strong anti-inflammatory effect. It has a very strong pro-cognitive effect. They've done, sponsored a bunch of studies with it, but it's not all sponsored studies. They're actually basing their research. The reason for launching the company, they cite some older research showing that the pentadecanoic acid, in general, the all-chain saturated fatty acids, raise

the levels of ATP in the body. And it's probably because of their effect on mitochondria. Now the heptadienoic acid, by the way, both of these fatty acids are found almost exclusively in dairy. Yet another reason to eat dairy. And in fact, the highest amounts are found in ice cream and cheese, which probably explains, there was a recent thread on the forum showing that there's some kind of a magic or mystery to ice cream, and that's how the article was titled,

protects from diabetes, heart disease, cancer, and all these things, and they couldn't figure out what it was, I suspect that the presence of these two off-chain fatty acids there is the reason. So another name for the

The 17-carbon chain one is margaric acid. And margaric, I think, is a Greek word for butter. So that's where these fatty acids are coming from. So with margaric acid, they actually have a study with dolphins. I don't know why they did dolphins. Where they show reversal, complete reversal of type 2 diabetes. If you open up a browser…

and type margaric acid diabetes, you'll see there's a very interesting article about dolphins with it.

And really, relatively low doses because it's found in trace amounts in dairy. So you got to eat a ton of dairy to get them. But a product that when I get to release it, we'll probably have 100 milligrams of each. And basically, that's the dosage at which they're selling that company, Fatty Acid 15. That's the dosage which they sell in the 15-carbo one. But my product will have both, the 15 and the 17 one. And

and probably dissolved in just olive oil or MCT, depending on what people prefer. I'm still on the fence whether I should add to Carrefour or not, because I want people to be able to see the direct effect of the fatty acids, the

But if I add tocopherol, first of all, it's going to make the product last longer. And second, it will further improve the absorption of these fat acids through the lymphatic system, which is what we really want. So there may be some tocopherol, but the main active ingredient will be these two fatty acids. Got it. Nice. Interesting. Cool, man. I don't understand how you keep creating these novel products. Yeah.

You don't want to live in my head. It's a chaotic, chaotic mess there. Cool, brother. Okay. I do coaching on patreon.com slash Danny Roddy. And it's since it's the beginning of September, I've opened up new spots. I'm also doing group coaching and I really had no clue how this was going to go, but it is, it's so much fun.

And so if you don't need to talk to me for 45 minutes and you just want to, I don't know, possibly bounce ideas off somebody and you think I could be valuable, then this might be good. And also the really cool thing about this is, um,

There's a lot of people from similar places here and then all sit back and then they'll bounce questions off each other. Like, where do you get aspirin? Oh, it's like at this boots or something like that. So it's really and there's just zero shenanigans. You know, it's like it's like 20 people all on the same page, but

No shenanigans. And it's, I don't know. It's been, I didn't know what to expect. And it's been really, you know, you've actually recreated how, how originally group therapy was supposed to work. Now it's descended into complete hell. And I don't think anybody should participate in group or single therapy for that, for that matter. But I think that's how it originally was. It was very kind of like non-committal, non-committal, non-official gathering where people simply were, you know, encouraged to feel human again. Didn't Ray say something about this? It's like,

he used to like the whole idea of like counseling because but only the only if you can form a bond with the actual with the actual counselor and then around like the middle to late 70s they started discouraging them and actually actively training the counselor not to care and he thought at that point it became that that's pathological you just sit there with somebody who actually probably actively hates your guts or at the very least thinks of like how to get rid of you in the

quickest possible manner with the least amount of time spent on you. But originally, that's how it was. Basically, you bond with a doctor or the counselor, and that's therapeutic. And therapeutic for the doctor as well. Remember that study on the forum that I posted a couple years ago showing that the placebo effect is real, and it depends. It's based on dopamine and the feeling of rapport and bonding with the doctor or whoever is basically administering the drug. If there is no such thing, the placebo effect disappears.

Yeah, I think he would often reference Carl Rogers and Carl Rogers, his like approach was less of a top, not a top down approach of like, oh, well, you should do this, this and that. And it was more important what person has a disease than what disease the person has. Yeah. What type of person has the disease? Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Okay, I didn't do my homework and I didn't check. Which were the articles that were the most popular? I think the molecule dissolved in vitamin E. Preferably targets the brain. I mean, again, another great vindication for Ray. Basically, they're doing some kind of a toxic oligonucleotides for healing the injuries of stroke.

But then they discover by accident that if they bind these molecules that think are beneficial for the brain, if they actually mix them with vitamin E, specifically alpha-tocopherol, I have to do more research of why they didn't use some of the other isomers. But I think I know because the transport protein for vitamin E is preferential for alpha-tocopherol. It does not like the other isomers as much.

I think that's why they're excreted in high amounts when you take mixed tocopherols, simply because the body preferentially absorbs the alpha isomer, even if you take a mixture of the different isomers. In any event, they found out that if you mix whatever molecule you want with vitamin E and then basically administer it, it not only preferentially goes to the brain, but also preferentially goes to the site of injury.

And I immediately thought of progesterone and pregnenolone being tried for traumatic brain injury and Ray writing about, you know, all of their benefits for the brain, specifically for neurological disease, Alzheimer's disease, stroke. I think he mentioned stroke a couple of times too. And if that's the case, then basically his decision to dissolve them in –

his original product, Progestin, and I think he has a patent on testosterone and DHA as well. In other words, any steroid you dissolve in vitamin E, the study at least implies that if you take that orally or however, basically, if it gets into the bloodstream in one way or another, it will preferentially go to the brain and also preferentially affect the

sites of injury. So, so when you dissolve these things in vitamin E, you are able to achieve much stronger effect with much lower dosage, which is really the Holy grail pharmacologist. I said in my post is that basically specificity for effect and basically minimizing the dosage, which minimizes the risk of side effects. Apparently vitamin E does that when it comes to the brain. So it's a, and vitamin itself is very therapeutic for the brain. So really a genius product there, Progestin E. Uh,

30 to 40 years before the study came up, Ray already knew that if you mix things with vitamin E, you're basically targeting the brain and specifically the aging parts of the brain. Well, isn't that because it's picked up in the chylomicrons? The absorption is way better, right?

Yeah, but just because it gets picked up to the chylomicrons, then it travels and it gets released by something called the thoracic duct, which is behind your sternum, and gets released into the bloodstream. But once you're in your bloodstream, basically, there's nothing that—it's a mystery. Basically, there's no reason for it to go to the brain and also target the site of injury in the brain. With vitamin E, it doesn't.

You see, when it releases its damage circulation, it should go everywhere, right? And it does, but it somehow seems to preferentially go up the brain, even though that thoracic duct dumps it into the general circulation. It's not something that goes only into the brain. Is that explainable? Is it some magnetic event or something? Or what do you think? I think, I mean, it's a very lipophilic molecule and the brain has preference for those molecules. What I remember, I remember a study that I posted a couple of months ago. It was recent.

showing that three beta hydroxy steroids, specifically pregnenolone and cholesterol, basically have the highest accumulation inside of the cell. And it tested, I think, 20 different cell types, and the ones that were brain cells accumulated these molecules at the highest rate. So I think the brain simply being like a 92% fat or whatever it was, it's a very lipophilic environment, and things that are basically lipophilic will end up going into the brain. That's kind of known…

indirectly from the studies with pesticides and other things that are, or hormones or things that are given to the animals or to the plants, that if they're lipophilic, they're usually much more toxic to the brain than they are to the rest of the organs. They're going to damage the other organs too, but if you're using something on the plant or the animal and it stays in the animal and you consume it, the more lipophilic it is, the more it's going to affect the brain.

That's really interesting. I didn't know that. Okay, let's go to… What else? The vitamin D game changer for patients with GI cancers. This is hard to believe because it's so toxic, but I'll entertain you for a second. That's exactly what I thought. And of course, a handicap study. They're really nefarious. I mean, medicine, I don't know what else to call it other than direct fraud at this point. So they only use 2,000 units a day.

And if you remember that study that was posted a couple of years ago showed that the original calculations on which the RDA was based were erroneous. And thus, the daily estimated needed dosages for most people were underestimated by a factor of at least 10.

So when they say 400 units, which is the current idea for an adult, they really mean 4,000. At the very least, 4,000. And that's maintenance dose. That's basically to keep you healthy. For somebody with cancer, I don't see why wouldn't they use an even higher dose. I know why. Because the hospital protocols say vitamin D is toxic. It's rat poison. You shouldn't be giving it to anybody. Dose is just higher than 400 units. 2,000 units is a high dose. I kid you not. 2,000 units daily is considered a high dose vitamin D. But…

There are other, they actually published case studies. I think I sent one of them to you of a person with end-stage pancreatic cancer where basically she started taking 50,000 units daily and the cancer completely stopped growing and the metastasis disappeared. And to this day, she's alive and in full remission by doing nothing except taking vitamin D at 50,000 units daily. No hypercalcemia, even though people with cancer, advanced cancer, usually have, it's called hypercalcemia of cancer.

That's because the tumors produce something called parathyroid hormone-related peptide, PTHRP, and it acts like parathyroid, so it starts leaching calcium from the bones, and it can eventually even cause death because of this hypercalcemia. So almost all people with advanced cancer have cellulose.

some level degree of hypokalcemia. So taking 50,000 units of vitamin D, if the medical people were correct, that should have killed this woman. It didn't. In fact, again, I think three or four years later, she's still alive, still kicking. And, you know, I don't think she'll ever go to see a doctor again. Well, Ray was… Oh, go ahead.

So anyway, so this study basically looked at people with a number of different GI cancers. I think it was a stomach, in other words, gastric, colon. There we go. I've highlighted them in red, I think. Colorectal, gastric, esophageal, and small bowel cancer. So for all of these people taking vitamin D at 2000 units daily, basically reduced the rate of relapse and death by more than 30%. I

I don't know of any drug that's currently approved or even development that has such blockbuster result. And I think that's why even though the study was done by doctors, it was a liberty handicap. And we know that they hate vitamin D. Even they couldn't hold back their enthusiasm. And they had to say that vitamin D is a game changer for GI cancers because it is. Nothing else that's currently available or planned or in development is known to have such an effect, to reduce the death rate of cancer by 100%.

At any stage. So it means some of these people are already terminal. So it reduces the rate. So another way to word this even more strongly is basically it reduces the death rate by 30% of even terminal patients. In other words, people who are being told you're 100% dead. Vitamin D says no, you're only 70% dead.

Well, in one of our last chats with Ray, he said that parathyroid hormone was the strongest promoter of lactic acid production. So, I mean, that would provide a plausible mechanism. If vitamin D was suppressing PTH, that would be like the cancer hormone, basically. Yeah. And the other thing is because these people have hypercalcemia, as Ray wrote in one of his articles, the calcium paradox is

Because the older people and people with cancer have elevated serum calcium, they're being told by doctors to completely avoid any calcium consumption.

So if they actually, but in order to suppress the parathyroid, even PTHRP, you do need the calcium. So that's the calcium paradox. You already have too much calcium, but the way to get it down is to eat more calcium, right? So if the study only looked at taking vitamin D, if they had combined it with just a little bit, like 500 milligrams of calcium daily, I think we would have seen a much stronger result.

Yeah, I had a podcast with Ray and I read this to him. It is extremely important to realize that calcium deposits in soft tissues become worse when the diet is low in calcium and that applies for vitamin D as well. And I read that to him and he's like, yeah, it's horrifying that nobody knows that in the medical world.

Well, actually they do, but they call it the calcium paradox. So they're saying like, these people, we know these people are low on calcium because we tell them to eat low calcium. Their calcium is high in the blood and becomes large into their soft tissues, and we don't know how to get it up. Well, one way is to eat more calcium. Another way is to take vitamin D, and probably the way, the method for which we already have sufficient evidence is vitamin K. At the very least, we'll take it out of the soft tissues and dump it back into the bowl. But

Unless you restore the dietary intake of calcium to normal, neither vitamin D nor vitamin K will ultimately save you because you're just recycling that calcium and it's not a good situation. It needs to stay in the bone and in order for it to stay in the bone and go into the bone when eaten, parathyroid hormone needs to be low, prolactin needs to be low, serotonin needs to be low, estrogen needs to be low. So again, we're going back to the metabolic rate and dietary calcium.

Stop me if I've brought this up to you before, but I feel like I brought this up to everybody except you, but I could be misremembering. But isn't it interesting that we don't know the full details, but with Ray's diet towards the end, presumably restricting milk and cheese and things like that if he's getting 50 or 20 grams per day. But the thing that I've been thinking about a lot is that

he was probably in like a positive calcium balance because he was eating so much carbohydrate. He was eating so much fructose and that was helping despite not getting much calcium. He was probably depleting phosphorus and maintaining like a positive ratio. And it's kind of interesting because you could try to do that through eating lots of milk and cheese, or you could try going to 600, 700, 800 grams of carbohydrate and basically doing the same thing

but decreasing those amino acids, eating a shitload of carbohydrate. And this is like gaining a lot of the calcium. Yeah. Well, I think also because I think he said towards the end that last couple of months he was eating a lot of cooked vegetables. If they're of the green kind, they have a ton of calcium in them. So basically you are still getting calcium. It's just of a different type. I apologize if I brought that up before. I just always think about it. But yeah, I mean, that was, I wish I could talk to him about it more.

Okay, we'll get just one or two articles here, then I'll let you go. I know it's really late there. Let's go to what else? I don't know. I think the ones that I posted since the last talk were like the last 10, like the 10 total. Got it. What about stress injury, mitochondrial dysfunction? Yes. Let me just look at this one. D-differentiation, even cancer? Oh, yes. So basically they demonstrated that if you block…

So if you increase the production of reactive oxygen species, that's sufficient to actually get a cell to de-differentiate. In other words, taking the study extreme, produce sufficient amount of ROS, you're gonna get cancer.

And even mainstream medicine is kind of saying that. That's why I think they're recommending and saying like, okay, if you don't have cancer, it's good to take antioxidants, even though you're actually in a reductive stress. It's good to take antioxidants because it's going to lower the risk of cancer. However, if you already have cancer, it's bad to take antioxidants because when we give you chemotherapy or radiation, they actually kill the tumor cells by creating reactive oxygen species and the antioxidants will actually mop these up and basically things will

you're going to decrease the effectiveness of our therapy. However, if chemotherapy and radiation work by creating even more ROS, that's exactly how you're going to get the entire body to become cancerous because the study shows that any cell that they tried, fully differentiated, can go back into the stem cell state if you produce a sufficient amount of ROS. What else increases ROS? Oxidizing predominantly fats.

What else does this? Lowering the metabolic rate, like low thyroid, like high cortisol or high estrogen. Any of these things that results in reverse electron flow. The myth here is that you're producing ROS when mitochondria is functioning properly. High metabolic rate equals high ROS. Complete crap. In fact, even the Wikipedia page says that 0.5% only of the ROS produced by

through forward electron flow. The vast majority, 99.5, even 99.7, I think was the other number that I saw, is produced when there's reverse electron flow. When does this happen? When there's a blockage at one or more

of the electron transport chain complexes due to insufficient, like basically redox ratio of NAD to the NADH being shifted towards reduction or FAD towards FADH shifted towards reduction. And the latter one you get when you oxidize in too much fatty acids. The first one, actually, you're getting also lowered through the Randall cycle, um,

And even the Wikipedia page says that. So if you oxidize primarily fats, you will be basically stuck in reverse electron transfer flow for at least a portion of those electrons that are coming from food, which means a lot of ROS. And even the keto community actually is now saying, yes, we're producing a lot of ROS because we oxidize fat. However, that's a good thing because it's a hormetic effect. And basically, it keeps us healthy and keeps the immune system going and whatnot.

Not so much here. This study says that all that it takes for the de-differentiation of cells is to simply increase the ROS production up to a certain level. Conversely, if you decrease the excessive ROS, the cells decrease.

miraculously differentiate back into the cell that they started with, which means there is no such thing as a cancer cell. There is no such thing as a evil mutation that turned the cancer cell into a cancer cell and you have to kill it. All you have to do is de-stress the cell. To quote Ray, he said, I don't know why people say they're cancer cells. All cells can only do what the environment allows them to do. And in this case, it's the ROS-1.

That's basically, among other factors, I'm not saying it's the only factor, but the reactive oxygen species are a major factor in dead differentiation

Limiting them is a major factor in red differentiation. And basically, because ROS is associated with low metabolic rate or eating a bunch of different or being exposed to metabolic inhibitors, it kind of validates Otto Warburg's initial statement that anything that interferes with the usage of oxygen will ultimately lead to disease. And he thought specifically cancer. But I think to any disease, as we now know, they're all metabolic. Wait, I thought Otto Warburg said that sugar causes cancer.

No, he didn't. Oh, I thought that was… No, he didn't. Yeah, well, that's how it's being quoted, but he never said that. Yeah, but you're saying that… So protein, carbohydrate, and fat are reduced down to electrons. They're passed through the cell. The NAD to NADH ratio is reflective of how many electrons are being passed to oxygen. And then when oxygen is not around, for example, for something like low carbon dioxide, you experience…

free radical damage or reactive oxygen species, and then those are a signal to the cell to de-differentiate and revert back to cellular division? Yeah, to cellular division and division and growth, because if the energy that's produced is insufficient for the differentiation, becoming a highly complex specialized organism, which is what we are, then we're going back to being an amoeba colony.

if you remember that, uh, study, I think it was very early that I posted on the forum back in 2014. There was this guy who's been studying cancer for I think his entire career. He said, we've been thinking of cancer wrongly. It's not an alien species. It's basically what life looked at, looked like on earth 2 billion years ago. So we're basically regressing to what life can be supported with our crappy energy production, uh,

in a hypothyroid or diseased or poisoned or state or any kind of state that leads to reduced oxygen consumption or driven by the stress hormones. Got it. You know, I could keep you longer, but it's so, so late there. I think we should probably cut it off at that. Unless you had a burning desire to talk about an article that we did not talk about. Let's see one more. I mean, like if I, Oh, Parkinson's disease. Yes. Progesterone. Got it. Very good one.

So basically this, this study kind of told us what we, Ray has been telling us, you know, for many years that, uh, all disease begins in the gut. It's a quote by Hippocrates. I think it's the original quote. I think so. Uh,

Aristotle believed in it, and basically Ray has been drilling into our heads about the dangers of endotoxin and how there's now a bunch of different studies showing that Alzheimer's disease has a great connection with periodontal disease, which has connection with endotoxin. Same thing with Parkinson's disease, but somehow they cannot make the connection that it's really the endotoxin molecule, even the bacteria that translocates endotoxin.

And basically causes all of this damage into the brain, ultimately resulting in hypometabolism.

So, this study says, look, let's admit the obvious. There is an enteric nervous system. It's in constant communication with the central nervous system through the vagus nerve and probably through other mechanisms that we're still yet to find out. And we know that basically everybody with a neurological disease such as Parkinson's disease has severe digestive disturbances. So, we know that something's going on with the digestive tract.

And basically, let's see if we can produce Parkinson's disease by doing something that damages the enteric nervous system cells. And they administer a drug called rotinone, which is perfect.

example here because rotenone is a complex one inhibitor. So in other words, lowering the metabolic rate of the cells in the enteric nervous system reliably causes Parkinson's disease in mice and in humans. In fact, environmental exposure to rotenone is a known risk factor for Parkinson's disease. So not much there. But the good thing is that we have now official proof and admission, even though it's not widely distributed or broadcasted, is that inhibiting oxidative phosphorylation directly causes Parkinson's disease.

Second good finding is that if you expose these cells of the enteric nervous system, co-expose them together with the rotanone, co-expose them to physiological concentrations of progesterone, just I think 10 nanomoles per liter was what they used in the study, it would use the death of these cells by more than 50%.

And that's a puny dose of progesterone, 10 nanomoles. So this means that only a few milligrams even of progesterone taken in the vitamin E specifically, which is also known to heal cells in the enteric nervous system, it can probably be a reliable method for preventing and treating Parkinson's disease, which is exactly what the study found in an animal model of Parkinson's disease.

They didn't propose a mechanism of action for progesterone, but we know that progesterone is prometabolic, and since rotanone is anti-metabolic, I think that's really the canceling effect that we're seeing there of progesterone blocking the pro-Parkinson disease effects of rotanone. Got it. Got it.

Crazy man. This is somewhat related, but this year seems to be like the year of Cascara, you know, like just stimulating bowel movements for people seems to offer great relief.

And so everything. Yeah, it just and also I've been talking to quite a few people this year that would take a pretty substantial dose of thyroid, but it would not move their bowels. And you'd expect at a certain point of taking 50 micrograms of T3 or something that that would stimulate the might cause diarrhea or something. So it's been it's been kind of wild that using both like vitamin D and not both, but vitamin D and

thyroid and cascara can really shift a person in the right direction pretty quickly. In my experience, progesterone can cause bowel movement if you take a heavy dosage. I think that's definitely true. And in fact, if you take too much progesterone, you might have to lower your thyroid dose. I've gotten into that a few times of feeling slightly hyper when not necessarily changing the thyroid dose, but changing the progesterone dose.

Yeah, but since, again, since rotanone was used here to cause Parkinson's disease and rotanone is a metabolic inhibitor, we know that endotoxin is a metabolic inhibitor. So this is an indirect proof that endotoxin is a direct cause of Parkinson's disease.

So you have more reasons, just like I said, to keep bowel movement regular because anytime you get backed up, basically, I think a lot of people know this firsthand. You get basically brain fog, right? That's the first symptom you're getting. Then you get irritation, agitation, you can't sleep and so on, depending on how long between going to the bathroom. But

You know, Kevin, I don't know. I don't know what's what I never asked Ray what what he considers an optimal thing. Would it be like every after every meal at least once a day? Like he said, every meal. OK, I would assume like three times per day at least.

Yeah. What was the quote? I think you had it on your website. When a Turk bows, don't move after every meal, the Turk consults a doctor. Yeah, that was posted on the forum. I thought that was pretty funny. Okay. Hey, thanks, Peggy. Thanks, Philip. They donated to the show. Appreciate you guys. Okay. Let's, okay. Closing thoughts, Georgie.

Not much. I think strap up, get your popcorn and, you know, get ready for the show. Either the popcorn will pop or we will, depending on if the nuke flies or not. What, do you have any big interviews coming up or anything, anything on the horizon? I have one with Dr. Mercola this Monday, this coming Monday. A lot of people are like, oh, I saw Georgie on Mercola and now I'm talking to you. And so I appreciate both you guys. Yeah.

Yeah. And then there was another, there's another doctor who contacted me and I don't know if we're going to do an interview, but first he wants to talk to me on the phone. Is it Dr. Nitric?

No, no, no, not this one. No, I don't think I'll pick up the phone for this guy. Actually, who knows? He may be a pleasant fellow. You know, this guy has a family to feed. What was that quote? A man, like it's very hard to get a man to understand something if his job depends on not understanding it. Yeah. By the way, I'd love to have that guy on the show. He can call in and talk to you. That'd be, that'd be fun. And what about James Gatz, Danny?

He's been hounding you and trying to get the show for like months. I wish him the absolute best with all his endeavors. He's a very unique individual and I wish him the absolute best, but I I'm part of the Rockefeller apparatus. Cause I was signed to Island Def Jam. That was something he pointed out. So I don't have ground to stand on here.

Anyways, so speaking of, I mean, we did talk, like, what was your response to the Grimhood possible debate? Did you see that at all? Yeah, I saw it. I mean, I don't have a problem with it. I just, you know, if it's going to be just like for shits and giggles and to get people riled up, I'm less inclined to do it. I don't think that was the vibe of it, but I don't know if he'd want to do it. So, Grim, if you're watching this, we'd like to do a respectful discussion and…

I think it would be valuable because he's a thought leader on Twitter, and obviously people respect Georgie, and I think that would be fun, but not looking to get nasty or anything. But it would just be a lark. It would be something fun to do in the end of the world. Yeah.

If I understand correctly, he's pro-magnesium. So there's some overlap with the bioenergetic idea. But some people posted on Twitter that he's like pro-serotonin or something. Yeah, I think those are some of the major disagreements. Yeah, I mean, it sounds like it's going to be a good discussion. I'm not looking to get into a fight. I know what I know. He knows what he knows. Hopefully we can clarify a few discrepancies.

Got it. Hey, Georgie, thank you so much. Really appreciate you staying late doing the show. Appreciate you so much. 103 episodes. That's crazy. So IdealabsDC.com and then IdealabsDC.com slash lab for the other ones. And yeah, absolutely fantastic.

patreon.com slash Danny Roddy and we'll see you guys soon and thank you so much for watching sorry about the lagging I'm literally mystified I don't know what's going on this doesn't make any sense okay guys see you guys soon peace out take care bye bye

生能播客 罗迪 Generative Energy Danny Roddy

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